FW: [NEohioPAL]Abuse of posting rules on NeOhioPAL?

RL Coppedge me at RLCoppedge.com
Sun Jun 26 12:21:18 PDT 2005


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My response on this (and I'm not taking a personal aside or issue with
anybody on this) is that a lot of people who use this particular service
aren't looking to the arts as a career, and just use it simply as a way to
keep up with all of the performing arts happenings in the area.  And yup,
it's not as expensive as some people may think.  But often that's provided
they live in an area where DSL is affordable and usable.
 
Also, remember that a lot of people (including those trying to get into the
performing arts, I reckon) are on a significant budget that precludes the
additional $20-30 monthly charge for the high-speed.
 
>From the "for what it's worth" department.
 
RL (Bob) Coppedge, MCSE, MCDBA, MCT
Ph: (330) 656 9737
Akron: (330) 655 3534
Cell: (216) 544 5595
me at RLCoppedge.com
http://www.rlcoppedge.com/
 
 
  _____  

From: neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com
[mailto:neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com] On Behalf Of
brandi at acidentertainment.net
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:19 PM
To: Mark Cipra
Cc: neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com
Subject: RE: [NEohioPAL]Abuse of posting rules on NeOhioPAL?
 
I normally hesitate to post responses to these sort of postings, however, I
have to say that I'm rather taken aback by the complaining over attachments.

 
Would you tell a big Hollywood Producer NOT to send you an attachment
because your still on dial up?  If you would, I doubt you'd be sent
anything.  
 
It's kind of like getting mad at someone for sending you a CD and not an 8
track tape.  
 
Like it or not, the Entertainment Industry is pretentious.  
 
And I totally disagree that any artist that sent out an attachment is in the
wrong and should be getting openly berated on this mailing list.  Artists
CREATE, and yes, they love to make colorful fliers etc. to advertise their
services.  That's called keeping up with the competition.  
 
As for the attachements supposedly carrying viruses---
 
If you have GOOD ANTI VIRUS SOFTWARE, all attachments are scanned for
viruses.  
 
I read in one of the emails that someone didn't appreciate waiting 2-3
minutes to open an attachment.  Put it in perspective and be grateful you
don't have to wait 12-16 hours for an airplane to drop your dinner from the
sky---
 
If you want to compete with those already successful in the entertainment
industry, it does mean keeping up.  And unfortunately, people that have
moved on from dial up shouldn't have to go backwards, those on dial up need
to move forward.
 
And before anyone sends an email saying they can't afford NOT to be on dial
up, I assure you High Speed Internet is very affordable these days.
Brandi Lynn Borgia
Director of Operations
Acid Entertainment & Third Eye Productions
www.acidentertainment.net <http://www.acidentertainment.net/> 
www.shop.acidentertainment.net <http://www.shop.acidentertainment.net/> 
www.thirdeyedomains.com <http://www.thirdeyedomains.com/> 
440-427-1597 or 440-840-2900
 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL]Abuse of posting rules on NeOhioPAL?
From: Mark Cipra <cipra at apk.net>
Date: Sun, June 26, 2005 10:50 am
To: neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com

Okay, everybody, thanks for getting the message on attachments and embedded
graphics.  

On the other hand, don't overreact - let's keep this bloodless :)  We
understand that mistakes happen, just try to keep it in mind in the future. 

Mark T. Cipra           H:  (216) 295-5763              B:  (216) 433-6372
"Nothing is so dangerous as being too modern.  One is apt to grow 
old-fashioned quite suddenly" - Wilde
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My response on this (and I’m =
not
taking a personal aside or issue with anybody on this) is that a lot of =
people
who use this particular service aren’t looking to the arts as a =
career,
and just use it simply as a way to keep up with all of the performing =
arts happenings
in the area.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>And yup, =
it’s
not as expensive as some people may think. <span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But often that’s provided =
they live
in an area where DSL is affordable and =
usable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also, remember that a lot of people =
(including
those trying to get into the performing arts, I reckon) are on a =
significant
budget that precludes the additional $20-30 monthly charge for the =
high-speed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From the =
“for what
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com
[mailto:neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>brandi at acidentertainment.net<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 26, =
2005 12:19
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Mark Cipra<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: =
[NEohioPAL]Abuse of
posting rules on NeOhioPAL?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I normally hesitate to post responses to these sort of postings,
however, I have to say that I'm rather taken aback by the complaining =
over
attachments.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Would you tell a big Hollywood Producer NOT to send you an =
attachment because
your still on dial up?  If you would, I doubt you'd be sent
anything.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>It's kind of like getting mad at someone for sending you a CD =
and not
an 8 track tape.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Like it or not, the Entertainment Industry is =
<strong><b><u><font
face=3D"Times New Roman">pretentious.  =
</font></u></b></strong><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>And I totally disagree that any artist that sent out an =
attachment is
in the wrong and should be getting openly berated on this mailing =
list. 
Artists CREATE, and yes, they love to make colorful fliers etc. to =
advertise
their services.  That's called keeping up with the =
competition.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>As for the attachements supposedly carrying =
viruses---<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>If you have GOOD ANTI VIRUS SOFTWARE, all attachments are =
scanned for
viruses.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I read in one of the emails that someone didn't appreciate =
waiting 2-3
minutes to open an attachment.  Put it in perspective and be =
grateful you
don't have to wait 12-16 hours for an airplane to drop your dinner from =
the
sky---<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>If you want to compete with those already successful in the
entertainment industry, it does mean keeping up.  And =
unfortunately,
people that have moved on from dial up shouldn't have to go backwards, =
those on
dial up need to move forward.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>And before anyone sends an email saying they can't afford NOT to =
be on
dial up, I assure you High Speed Internet is very affordable these =
days.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Brandi Lynn Borgia<br>
Director of Operations<br>
Acid Entertainment & Third Eye Productions<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.acidentertainment.net/">www.acidentertainment.net</a><=
br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.shop.acidentertainment.net/">www.shop.acidentertainmen=
t.net</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.thirdeyedomains.com/">www.thirdeyedomains.com</a><br>
440-427-1597 or 440-840-2900<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL]Abuse of posting rules on NeOhioPAL?<br>
From: Mark Cipra <cipra at apk.net><br>
Date: Sun, June 26, 2005 10:50 am<br>
To: neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com<br>
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Okay, everybody, thanks for getting the message on attachments and =
embedded<br>
graphics.  <br>
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On the other hand, don't overreact - let's keep this bloodless :) =
 We<br>
understand that mistakes happen, just try to keep it in mind in the =
future. <br>
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"Nothing is so dangerous as being too modern.  One is apt to =
grow <br>
old-fashioned quite suddenly" - Wilde<br>
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also
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put
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12.0pt'>_______________________________________Fairmount Performing Arts =
Camp:
THEATRE TRAINING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TAUGHT BY REGION'S TOP PROS --
http://www.fairmountcenter.org/fpac/summercamp.htm
_______________________________________ There is a sister site to this =
list
called the "NEoPAL Bulletin Board." Occasionally when
"hot-button" discussions go on more than a day or two, the =
bulletin
board is used. The Neopal bulletin board also has some other terrific =
features,
like a searchable database for you to put your personal information,a =
place to
post pictures and a chat room with a nightly 11pm gathering to discuss =
hot topics:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neopal/ =
_______________________________________
Disclaimer: The facts and/or opinions expressed in this message are =
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for
all goods, services and activities promoted on NEohioPAL. NEohioPAL =
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list NEohioPAL at lists.fredsternfeld.com =
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