[NEohioPAL]What has happened to this Community?
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Mon Oct 24 13:12:41 PDT 2005
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I read your e-mail.
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I have been doing Community Theater in Cleveland and the surrounding areas f=
or over 32 years. I have come across all kinds of people in the community.=20=
The good the bad, and the ugly. =20
I have worked with many directors and actors that I liked, and with those th=
at I have not liked. I do my best to avoid those that I tend not to get alo=
ng with. Acting and singing are things I do for relaxation. If I am not ha=
ving fun, then what is the point??? =20
=20
We all have our opinions but, unless I am asked for mine, I keep them to mys=
elf. I do not believe in openly bad mouthing anyone. My opinions are not r=
ight or wrong. They are merely my opinions. =20
If this person chooses to bad mouth another for whatever reason, I feel that=
it is that person's prerogative. I do not have to agree with their opinion=
s or the manner in which they decided to share
them. =20
As much as you and I have the right not to be petty or nasty, this person ha=
s the right to be petty and nasty if they so choose. =20
=20
This person has revealed something about their personality that may not be a=
ttractive to other people.
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My advice... Ignore and avoid them.
=20
Don't let it upset you. Life is to short.
=20
Consider the source.
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Original Message-----
From: Christine Marcelli <CMarcelli at aultman.com>
To: neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com
Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:29:20 -0400
Subject: [NEohioPAL]What has happened to this Community?
I am just sitting here wondering "What has happened to our theatrical commun=
ity"? Everyone used to be so supportive of each other. Now, it seems like ev=
ery one's out to "get" the other guy, or at the very least "get even" over s=
omething. Recently I saw a posting about someone looking for a mystery compa=
ny for an event. Now, I work for SEVERAL different companies, and have very=20=
good friends that work for different companies. So, I had sent e-mails with=20=
links to different sites to all who asked. I did this as a FAVOR.trying to d=
o something nice. I was doing what I was taught to do. Help others like I ha=
ve been helped in the past. One person in particular, was not happy with any=
of the people I suggested. She had problems with certain people being rude,=
or mis-spelling words, or other various issues. No problem. I respect her d=
ecisions/opinions. Faire enough. No one has to use any one they don't like f=
or whatever reason. I personally have never had these problems with any of t=
he companies I suggested, but I understand that sometimes people clash with=20=
other people. Now here is where my problem lies. Since then, this person tha=
t was looking for the mystery company has totally bashed one the companies I=
referred to her. She even has gone so far as to reply to my postings of the=
ir gigs saying things like "I'll never go to one of their shows" and "I told=
all of my friends and co-workers to avoid this company". Now, I feel like s=
he has the right to feel and say what she wants, HOWEVER I would like to poi=
nt some things out. There are many, many actors, technical directors, and di=
rectors that work for all these companies and they should not be punished an=
d bad mouthed over an issue that someone has with ONE person. I also don't b=
elieve that, after I just tried to help her find someone, that I should rece=
ive unkind e-mails. It is still my prerogative to support whom I wish withou=
t being harassed. Even though she personally had a problem with this company=
in particular, I have people call me almost every day asking about when the=
ir next show is. Some people, including myself, think the gentleman she had=20=
a problem with is a super kind and gentle person. I have personally seen wit=
h my own eyes his compassion and generosity. Some people happen to think thi=
s company and their actors are fantastic, so I have every right to still sup=
port them. If you don't feel the same, that is you're opinion. I shouldn't b=
e treated bad because of that. I mean are people THAT ungrateful? I never ev=
en got a thank you for helping this lady in the first place. Even if she did=
n't find someone out the people I sent her, the right and kind thing to do i=
s at the VERY least say thanks. Has this theater community that used to supp=
ort actors and directors turned into a forum to deal out personal vengeances=
while affecting people's lives that had NOTHING to do with the original sin=
so to speak? I personally did nothing to this lady, other than try and be n=
ice and help, and this is the thanks I get. I am sorry she had such conflict=
with this one person, but geez.do you chop down the WHOLE tree over one bad=
apple? Now, I am wondering if it was even "him" that was the problem. I hea=
r that this is happening all over. To a bunch of mystery companies. I have f=
riends that are single mom's trying to make a buck and because of one person=
's opinion and choice to be vindictive, they will loose work and money to fe=
d their children with. Over what? Someone "getting even" with someone they d=
idn't like, or that was rude to them. I think people in this community need=20=
to be a little more RESPONSIBLE for their actions. Especially when those act=
ions affect people way PAST the person they are trying to hurt. The last tim=
e I checked.we are all HUMAN. With sins and faults. Can't we just face that=20=
sometimes we run into people we don't like or that were rude to us. Do we ne=
ed to go and ruin people over it? Ruin people that had nothing to even do wi=
th it. It seems so harsh and irresponsible. Do people really feel like they=20=
are in position to be judge and jury and ruin people's lives they don't even=
know? I am so discouraged and out right ashamed that people behave this way=
. Is it just me? Is anyone else in this theatrical community feeling this wa=
y? At this point it makes me wonder why I am in a business that is supposed=20=
be based on dreams, love and happiness, and it's surrounded with ugly, hurtf=
ul people. Please someone give me something to hold on to. =20
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ead your e-mail.</DIV>
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<DIV>I have been doing Community Theater in Cleveland and the <SPAN class=
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ve come across a<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=
=3D"">ll</SPAN></SPAN> kinds of people in the community. The good the=20=
bad, and the ugly. </DIV>
<DIV>I have worked with many directors and actors that I liked, and with tho=
se that I have not liked. I do my best to avoid those that I tend not=20=
to get along with. Acting and singing are things I do for relaxation.&=
nbsp; If I am not having fun, then what is the point??? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We a<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">l=
l</SPAN></SPAN> have our opinions but, unless I am asked for mine, I keep th=
em to myself. I do not <SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN cla=
ss=3Dcorrection id=3D"">believe</SPAN></SPAN> in openly bad mouthing anyone.=
My <SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">=
opinions</SPAN></SPAN> are not right or wrong. They are merely my <SPA=
N class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">opinions</SPAN=
></SPAN>. </DIV>
<DIV>If this person chooses to bad mouth another for whatever reason, I feel=
that it is that person's <SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcor=
rection id=3D"">prerogative</SPAN></SPAN>. I do not have to agree with=
their <SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">opi=
nions</SPAN></SPAN> or the manner in which they decided to share</DIV>
<DIV>them. </DIV>
<DIV>As much as you and I have the right not to be petty or nasty, this pers=
on has the right to be petty and nasty if they so choose. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This person has revealed something about their personality that ma=
y not be attractive to other people.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My advice... Ignore and avoid them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Don't let it upset you. Life is to short.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Consider the source.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Original Message-----<BR>From: Christine <SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=
=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">Marcelli</SPAN></SPAN> <C<SPAN cla=
ss=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">Marcelli</SPAN></SP=
AN>@aultman.com><BR>To: neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com<BR>Sent: Mon, 2=
4 Oct 2005 14:29:20 -0400<BR>Subject: [NEohioPAL]What has happened to this C=
ommunity?<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE:=
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am just sitting here wondering "What has happen=
ed to our theatrical community"? Everyone used to be so supportive of each o=
ther. Now, it seems like every one's out to "get" the other guy, or at the v=
ery least "get even" over something. Recently I saw a posting about someone=20=
looking for a mystery company for an event. Now, I work for SEVERAL differen=
t companies, and have very good friends that work for different companies. S=
o, I had sent e-mails with links to different sites to a<SPAN class=3Dcorrec=
tion id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">ll</SPAN></SPAN> who asked. I=20=
did this as a FAVOR.trying to do something nice. I was doing what I was taug=
ht to do. Help others like I have been helped in the past. One person in par=
ticular, was not happy with any of the people I suggested. She had problems=20=
with certain people being rude, or <SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN cl=
ass=3Dcorrection id=3D"">mis-spelling</SPAN></SPAN> words, or other various=20=
issues. No problem. I respect her decisions/opinions. <SPAN class=3Dcorrecti=
on id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">Faire</SPAN></SPAN> enough. No o=
ne has to use any one they don't like for whatever reason. I personally have=
never had these problems with any of the com<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"=
">pa</SPAN>nies I suggested, but I understand that someti<SPAN class=3Dcorre=
ction id=3D"">me</SPAN>s people clash with other people. Now here is where m=
y problem lies. Since then, this person that was looking for the mystery com=
pany has totally bashed one the companies I referred to her. She even has go=
ne so far as to reply to my postings of th<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">e=
i</SPAN>r gigs saying things like "I'<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">ll</SP=
AN> never go to one of their shows" and "I told a<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=
=3D"">ll</SPAN> of my friends and co-workers to avoid this company". Now, I=20=
feel like she has the right to feel and say what she wants, HOWEVER I would=20=
like to point so<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">me</SPAN> things out. There=
are many, many actors, technical directors, an<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=
=3D"">d </SPAN>directors that work for a<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">ll<=
/SPAN> these companies and they should not be punished and bad mouthed over=20=
an issue that someone has with ONE person. I also don't bel<SPAN class=3Dcor=
rection id=3D"">ie</SPAN>ve that, after I just tried to help her find someon=
e, that I should receive unkind e-mails. It is sti<SPAN class=3Dcorrection i=
d=3D"">ll</SPAN> my prerogative to support whom I wish without being harasse=
d. Ev<SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">en</SPAN> though she personally had a=20=
problem with this company in particular, I have people call me almost every=20=
day asking about when their next show is. Some peop<SPAN class=3Dcorrection=20=
id=3D"">le</SPAN>, including myself, think the gentleman she had a problem w=
ith is a super kind and gentle person. I have personally seen with my own ey=
es his compassion and generosity. Some people happen to think this company a=
nd their actors are fantastic, so I have every right to still support them.=20=
If you don't feel the same, that is you're opinion. I <SPAN class=3Dcorrecti=
on id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">shouldn</SPAN></SPAN>'t be treat=
ed bad because of that. I mean are people THAT ungrateful? I never even got=20=
a thank you for helping this lady in the first place. Even if she <SPAN clas=
s=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">didn</SPAN></SPAN>'t=
find someone out the people I sent her, the right and kind thing to do is a=
t the VERY least say thanks. Has this theater community that used to support=
actors and directors turned into a forum to deal out personal <SPAN class=
=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">vengeances</SPAN></SP=
AN> while affecting people's lives that had NOTHING to do with the original=20=
sin so to speak? I personally did nothing to this lady, other than try and b=
e nice and help, and this is the thanks I get. I am sorry she had such confl=
ict with this one person, but <SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=
=3Dcorrection id=3D"">geez</SPAN></SPAN>.do you chop down the WHOLE tree ove=
r one bad apple? Now, I am wondering if it was even "him" that was the probl=
em. I hear that this is happening all over. To a bunch of mystery companies.=
I have friends that are single mom's trying to make a buck and because of o=
ne person's opinion and choice to be vindictive, they will loose work and mo=
ney to fed their children with. Over what? Someone "getting even" with someo=
ne they <SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D""><SPAN class=3Dcorrection id=3D"">di=
dn</SPAN></SPAN>'t like, or that was rude to them. I think people in this co=
mmunity need to be a little more RESPONSIBLE for their actions. Especially w=
hen those actions affect people way PAST the person they are trying to hurt.=
The last time I checked.we are all HUMAN. With sins and faults. Can't we ju=
st face that sometimes we run into people we don't like or that were rude to=
us. Do we need to go and ruin people over it? Ruin people that had nothing=20=
to even do with it. It seems so harsh and irresponsible. Do people really fe=
el like they are in position to be judge and jury and ruin people's lives th=
ey don't even know? I am so discouraged and out right ashamed that people be=
have this way. Is it just me? Is anyone else in this theatrical community fe=
eling this way? At this point it makes me wonder why I am in a business that=
is supposed be based on dreams, love and happiness, and it's surrounded wit=
h ugly, hurtful people. Please someone give me something to hold on to. <SPA=
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