[NEohioPAL]Parents, Pictures and Photo Calls

Keith Newman gglives666 at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 25 17:44:01 PST 2007


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  House Managers and Drama teachers- stick to your guns on the no camera rule.  When they say "I pay your salary", simply reply "I'm protecting the safety of the students and ensuring them an actor and audience friendly environment."  If you want you can train your ushers to say that or you can come up with slightly wittier.  
   
  This however does not solve the underlying problem of parents wanting pictures their child on stage.  What you should do (if you don't already) is schedule a photo call and make sure there are plenty of pictures of every actor.  At the end of the production you can give away a CD of all of the production shots or charge a small fee for them as a fund raiser.  They will be better then anything that mom and dad can take from the middle of the house and hopefully will not involve flash photography (which tends to piss off lighting designers).  Photo calls take more work but if handled properly will go quite quickly.  They must be put on the rehearsal calendar at the beginning of the audition process.  If parents know in advance that they will have pictures they will be less inclined to act like children when you tell them they can't take any of their own.   
   
  Photo Call Tips:
   
  1. Get the best photographer you can.  If you have to go with a student or volunteer look at some of their work before you agree to use them.  Tell them you need the stage lighting to come through and not be washed out.  Make sure you get shots of the set as well as the actors.  
   
  2. Digital = Cheap!  Film is expensive to use and you can't see instant results.    Use a digital camera and check every shot before moving on to the next one.  Although digital is cheap to process, you still should go with the highest resolution camera you can get. 
   
  3. Work from the end of the show to the beginning.  If you start the call after a dress rehearsal or a performance you can reset back to the beginning as you progress through the call.
   
  4. You can allow parents to attend the photo call and let them take pictures.  Just make sure your photographer has the shots you want before moving on.  
   
  5. Have your shots in mind before hand.  Write them out and post copies of what shots will be used in dressing rooms and your call board.  Stick to the shots you selected and don't add anymore.  No one wants to stay any longer then necessary. 
   
  6. Remind everyone frequently about them.  That includes the crew who will need to reset the lighting, costumes and sets as the photo call progresses.   
   
  Keith Newman
  Technical Director
  Cleveland Heights High School
   
   
   
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    "Greta Rothman" <gretaofoz at hotmail.com>
      To:
    cpribble at us.edu, VanBrujah at aol.com, warnert70 at yahoo.com, neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com
      Subject:
    RE: [NEohioPAL]i pay your salary
      Date:
    Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:54:19 -0500
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  Isn't lovely when people have no clue that the theatre experience isn't   all   about them....and would have the balls to tell you that they pay your   salery....WOW!    I used to be a professional house manager and what we did was had the   usual   signs including an annoucnement right before the show that reminded the   audience that flash photography was not only prohibited but a danger to   cast   members and that the House Manager had the right confiscate any   cameras......then if someone did take flash pics anyway I would pull   them   aside and tell them that they had two choices....they could give me the   camera and get it after the show or I could just take all of the film   out of   it right there......they usually gave me the camera. :)  People need to learn theatre etiquette which in this day and age is a   lost   art.    -Greta Rothman      >From: "Pribble Carol" <cpribble at us.edu>  >To: <VanBrujah at aol.com>,  
 ><warnert70 at yahoo.com>,<neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com>  >Subject: [NEohioPAL]i pay your salary  >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:16:48 -0500  >  >"I pay your salary"....every high school drama teacher's favorite   line!  >I did have a father say that to me once. I told him that if he paid my   >salary he should know that I was hired to run the theatre department,   and   >my job is to do what is best for the productions; flash photography is   >distracting to both the audience and the actors and therefore not best   for   >the production.  >I also told him that if he paid my salary, I could use a raise.  >CP  >  >________________________________  >  >From: neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com on behalf of   >VanBrujah at aol.com  >Sent: Sun 2/18/2007 10:35 PM  >To: warnert70 at yahoo.com; neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com  >Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL]Food and Drink in the Auditorium  >  >  >I see this problem in our high school productions all the time. My   theory   >on it is
 this:  >People have convinced themselves that the rules apply to everyone   EXCEPT   >them.  >  >  >We also have a small group of parents who  - even though their   children   >have been involved in community and high school theatre for years, and   they   >know better - continue to sneak cameras into performances and shoot   flash   >pictures during them, despite signs and an announcement telling them   this   >is not permitted. Their new thing is to sit in the 5th or 6th row,   dead   >center, where they think we won't be able to get to them and tell them   to   >stop. We actually had to interrupt a performance 2 weeks ago and tell   them   >to stop. One parent actually walked past me with a camera bag, and   when I   >reminded her that she could not take pictures, she insisted that it   was for   >after the show, and she didn't want to leave it in her car. Of course,   as   >soon as the lights went down, out came her camera and the flashes   began.  >  >So here's a good
 question for all you HS Drama folks out there - What   do   >YOU do when this happens? How far do you press the issue with people   who   >don't mind reminding you that "as a taxpayer, I pay your salary?"  >  >I'm curious to hear.  >  >  
   

  that flash photography was not only prohibited but a danger to   cast   members and that the House Manager had the right confiscate any   cameras......then if someone did take flash pics anyway I would pull   them   aside and tell them that they had two choices....they could give me the   camera and get it after the show or I could just take all of the film   out of   it right there......they usually gave me the camera. :)  People need to learn theatre etiquette which in this day and age is a   lost   art.    -Greta Rothman      >From: "Pribble Carol" <cpribble at us.edu>  >To: <VanBrujah at aol.com>,   ><warnert70 at yahoo.com>,<neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com>  >Subject: [NEohioPAL]i pay your salary  >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:16:48 -0500  >  >"I pay your salary"....every high school drama teacher's favorite   line!  >I did have a father say that to me once. I told him that if he paid my   >salary he should know that I was hired to run the theatre department,   and   >my job
 is to do what is best for the productions; flash photography is   >distracting to both the audience and the actors and therefore not best   for   >the production.  >I also told him that if he paid my salary, I could use a raise.  >CP  >  >________________________________  >  >From: neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com on behalf of   >VanBrujah at aol.com  >Sent: Sun 2/18/2007 10:35 PM  >To: warnert70 at yahoo.com; neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com  >Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL]Food and Drink in the Auditorium  >  >  >I see this problem in our high school productions all the time. My   theory   >on it is this:  >People have convinced themselves that the rules apply to everyone   EXCEPT   >them.  >  >  >We also have a small group of parents who  - even though their   children   >have been involved in community and high school theatre for years, and   they   >know better - continue to sneak cameras into performances and shoot   flash   >pictures during them, despite signs and an
 announcement telling them   this   >is not permitted. Their new thing is to sit in the 5th or 6th row,   dead   >center, where they think we won't be able to get to them and tell them   to   >stop. We actually had to interrupt a performance 2 weeks ago and tell   them   >to stop. One parent actually walked past me with a camera bag, and   when I   >reminded her that she could not take pictures, she insisted that it   was for   >after the show, and she didn't want to leave it in her car. Of course,   as   >soon as the lights went down, out came her camera and the flashes   began.  >  >So here's a good question for all you HS Drama folks out there - What   do   >YOU do when this happens? How far do you press the issue with people   who   >don't mind reminding you that "as a taxpayer, I pay your salary?"  >  >I'm curious to hear.  >  >  

 
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<DIV class="messageinfo separator" align=left><STRONG>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">House Managers and Drama teachers- stick to your guns on the no camera rule.  When they say "I pay your salary", simply reply "I'm protecting the safety of the students and ensuring them an actor and audience friendly environment."  If you want you can train your ushers to say that or you can come up with slightly wittier.  </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This however does not solve the underlying problem of parents wanting pictures their child on stage.  What you should do (if you don't already)
 is schedule a photo call and make sure there are plenty of pictures of every actor.  At the end of the production you can give away a CD of all of the production shots or charge a small fee for them as a fund raiser.  They will be better then anything that mom and dad can take from the middle of the house and hopefully will not involve flash photography (which tends to piss off lighting designers).  Photo calls take more work but if handled properly will go quite quickly.  They must be put on the rehearsal calendar at the beginning of the audition process.  If parents know in advance that they will have pictures they will be less inclined to act like children when you tell them they can't take any of their own.   </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
 Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Photo Call Tips:</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1. Get the best photographer you can.  If you have to go with a student or volunteer look at some of their work before you agree to use them.  Tell them you need the stage lighting to come through and not be washed out.  Make sure you get shots of the set as well as the actors.  </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
 Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. Digital = Cheap!  Film is expensive to use and you can't see instant results.    Use a digital camera and check every shot before moving on to the next one.  Although digital is cheap to process, you still should go with the highest resolution camera you can get. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3. Work from the end of the show to the beginning.  If you start the call after a dress rehearsal or a performance you can reset back to the beginning as you progress through the call.</SPAN><SPAN
 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">4. You can allow parents to attend the photo call and let them take pictures.  Just make sure your photographer has the shots you want before moving on.  </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">5. Have your shots in mind before hand.  Write them out and post copies of what shots will be used in dressing rooms and your call board.  Stick to
 the shots you selected and don't add anymore.  No one wants to stay any longer then necessary. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">6. Remind everyone frequently about them.  That includes the crew who will need to reset the lighting, costumes and sets as the photo call progresses.   </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keith Newman</SPAN><SPAN
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 #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><FONT face="Times New Roman">RE: [NEohioPAL]i pay your salary</FONT></SPAN></DIV></TD></TR>  <TR>  <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" noWrap>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Date:</FONT></SPAN></DIV></TD>  <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">Thu, </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">22 Feb 2007</SPAN><SPAN
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 href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter/file.txt?box=Inbox&MsgId=892_3389047_1570_2358_334349_0_17309_1051743_15934397&bodyPart=3.27.TEXT&filename=file.txt&Briefcase=1&tnef=&VScan=1&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&Idx=2" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Save to Yahoo! Briefcase</SPAN></A> ] </SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Isn't lovely when people have no clue that the theatre experience isn't<SPAN>   </SPAN>all<SPAN>   </SPAN>about them....and would have the balls to tell you that they pay your<SPAN>   </SPAN>salery....WOW!<SPAN>    </SPAN>I used to be a professional house manager and what we did was had the<SPAN>   </SPAN>usual<SPAN>   </SPAN>signs including an
 annoucnement right before the show that reminded the<SPAN>   </SPAN>audience that flash photography was not only prohibited but a danger to<SPAN>   </SPAN>cast<SPAN>   </SPAN>members and that the House Manager had the right confiscate any<SPAN>   </SPAN>cameras......then if someone did take flash pics anyway I would pull<SPAN>   </SPAN>them<SPAN>   </SPAN>aside and tell them that they had two choices....they could give me the<SPAN>   </SPAN>camera and get it after the show or I could just take all of the film<SPAN>   </SPAN>out of<SPAN>   </SPAN>it right there......they usually gave me the camera. :)<SPAN>  </SPAN>People need to learn theatre etiquette which in this day and age is a<SPAN>   </SPAN>lost<SPAN>   </SPAN>art.<SPAN>    </SPAN>-Greta Rothman<SPAN>      </SPAN>>From: "Pribble Carol" <<A
 href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=cpribble@us.edu&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><FONT face=Verdana>cpribble at us.edu</FONT></SPAN></A>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>To: <<A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=VanBrujah@aol.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><FONT face=Verdana>VanBrujah at aol.com</FONT></SPAN></A>>,<SPAN>   </SPAN>><<A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=warnert70@yahoo.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><FONT face=Verdana>warnert70 at yahoo.com</FONT></SPAN></A>>,<<A
 href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=neohiopal@lists.fredsternfeld.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><FONT face=Verdana>neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com</FONT></SPAN></A>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>Subject: [NEohioPAL]i pay your salary<SPAN>  </SPAN>>Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:16:48 -0500<SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>"I pay your salary"....every high school drama teacher's favorite<SPAN>   </SPAN>line!<SPAN>  </SPAN>>I did have a father say that to me once. I told him that if he paid my<SPAN>   </SPAN>>salary he should know that I was hired to run the theatre department,<SPAN>   </SPAN>and<SPAN>   </SPAN>>my job is to do what is best for the productions; flash photography is<SPAN>   </SPAN>>distracting to both the audience and the actors and therefore not
 best<SPAN>  </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN>for<SPAN>   </SPAN>>the production.<SPAN>  </SPAN>>I also told him that if he paid my salary, I could use a raise.<SPAN>  </SPAN>>CP<SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>________________________________<SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>From: <A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=neohiopal-admin@lists.fredsternfeld.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><FONT face=Verdana>neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com</FONT></SPAN></A> on behalf of<SPAN>   </SPAN>><A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=VanBrujah@aol.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><FONT face=Verdana>VanBrujah at aol.com</FONT></SPAN></A> <SPAN> </SPAN>>Sent: Sun
 2/18/2007 10:35 PM<SPAN>  </SPAN>>To: <A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=warnert70@yahoo.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><FONT face=Verdana>warnert70 at yahoo.com</FONT></SPAN></A>; <A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=neohiopal@lists.fredsternfeld.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN style="COLOR: #003399"><FONT face=Verdana>neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com</FONT></SPAN></A><SPAN>  </SPAN>>Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL]Food and Drink in the Auditorium<SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>I see this problem in our high school productions all the time. My<SPAN>   </SPAN>theory<SPAN>   </SPAN>>on it is this:<SPAN>  </SPAN>>People have convinced themselves that the rules apply to
 everyone<SPAN>   </SPAN>EXCEPT<SPAN>   </SPAN>>them.<SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>We also have a small group of parents who<SPAN>  </SPAN>- even though their<SPAN>   </SPAN>children<SPAN>   </SPAN>>have been involved in community and high school theatre for years, and<SPAN>   </SPAN>they<SPAN>   </SPAN>>know better - continue to sneak cameras into performances and shoot<SPAN>   </SPAN>flash<SPAN>   </SPAN>>pictures during them, despite signs and an announcement telling them<SPAN>   </SPAN>this<SPAN>   </SPAN>>is not permitted. Their new thing is to sit in the 5th or 6th row,<SPAN>   </SPAN>dead<SPAN>   </SPAN>>center, where they think we won't be able to get to them and tell them<SPAN>   </SPAN>to<SPAN>   </SPAN>>stop. We actually had to interrupt a performance 2 weeks
 ago and tell<SPAN>   </SPAN>them<SPAN>   </SPAN>>to stop. One parent actually walked past me with a camera bag, and<SPAN>   </SPAN>when I<SPAN>   </SPAN>>reminded her that she could not take pictures, she insisted that it<SPAN>   </SPAN>was for<SPAN>   </SPAN>>after the show, and she didn't want to leave it in her car. Of course,<SPAN>   </SPAN>as<SPAN>   </SPAN>>soon as the lights went down, out came her camera and the flashes<SPAN>   </SPAN>began.<SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>So here's a good question for all you HS Drama folks out there - What<SPAN>   </SPAN>do<SPAN>   </SPAN>>YOU do when this happens? How far do you press the issue with people<SPAN>   </SPAN>who<SPAN>   </SPAN>>don't mind reminding you that "as a taxpayer, I pay your salary?"<SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>>I'm curious to
 hear.<SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN>><SPAN>  </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </DIV></STRONG></DIV>  <DIV class="messageinfo separator" align=left><TT>that flash photography was not only prohibited but a danger to   cast   members and that the House Manager had the right confiscate any   cameras......then if someone did take flash pics anyway I would pull   them   aside and tell them that they had two choices....they could give me the   camera and get it after the show or I could just take all of the film   out of   it right there......they usually gave me the camera. :)  People need to learn theatre etiquette which in this day and age is a   lost   art.    -Greta
 Rothman      >From: "Pribble Carol" <<A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=cpribble@us.edu&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT face=Verdana color=#003399>cpribble at us.edu</FONT></A>>  >To: <<A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=VanBrujah@aol.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT face=Verdana color=#003399>VanBrujah at aol.com</FONT></A>>,   ><<A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=warnert70@yahoo.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT face=Verdana color=#003399>warnert70 at yahoo.com</FONT></A>>,<<A
 href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=neohiopal@lists.fredsternfeld.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT face=Verdana color=#003399>neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com</FONT></A>>  >Subject: [NEohioPAL]i pay your salary  >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:16:48 -0500  >  >"I pay your salary"....every high school drama teacher's favorite   line!  >I did have a father say that to me once. I told him that if he paid my   >salary he should know that I was hired to run the theatre department,   and   >my job is to do what is best for the productions; flash photography is   >distracting to both the audience and the actors and therefore not best   for   >the production.  >I also told him that if he paid my salary, I could use a raise.  >CP  > 
 >________________________________  >  >From: <A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=neohiopal-admin@lists.fredsternfeld.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT face=Verdana color=#003399>neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com</FONT></A> on behalf of   ><A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=VanBrujah@aol.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT face=Verdana color=#003399>VanBrujah at aol.com</FONT></A>  >Sent: Sun 2/18/2007 10:35 PM  >To: <A href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=warnert70@yahoo.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT face=Verdana color=#003399>warnert70 at yahoo.com</FONT></A>; <A
 href="http://us.f366.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=neohiopal@lists.fredsternfeld.com&YY=40277&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT face=Verdana color=#003399>neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com</FONT></A>  >Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL]Food and Drink in the Auditorium  >  >  >I see this problem in our high school productions all the time. My   theory   >on it is this:  >People have convinced themselves that the rules apply to everyone   EXCEPT   >them.  >  >  >We also have a small group of parents who  - even though their   children   >have been involved in community and high school theatre for years, and   they   >know better - continue to sneak cameras into performances and shoot   flash   >pictures during them, despite signs and
 an announcement telling them   this   >is not permitted. Their new thing is to sit in the 5th or 6th row,   dead   >center, where they think we won't be able to get to them and tell them   to   >stop. We actually had to interrupt a performance 2 weeks ago and tell   them   >to stop. One parent actually walked past me with a camera bag, and   when I   >reminded her that she could not take pictures, she insisted that it   was for   >after the show, and she didn't want to leave it in her car. Of course,   as   >soon as the lights went down, out came her camera and the flashes   began.  >  >So here's a good question for all you HS Drama folks out there - What   do   >YOU do when this happens? How far do you press the issue with people   who  
 >don't mind reminding you that "as a taxpayer, I pay your salary?"  >  >I'm curious to hear.  >  >  </TT></DIV><p> 

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