[NEohioPAL] Keep Government out of the Arts

[Gerald Perry]

To keep it simple, most businesses (and people) would do just fine just by doing the right thing because its the right thing to do. As this pertains to the Arts, just support them if you really care. See a play, see a film, by some art when you can. When the people who all love The Arts do this on a regular basis the government won't be of any question because they wont be a "producer". Thats who we become when we spend our money on The Arts, producers. Dont lets a single "producer" control the show.
That my POV. Am I wrong? When has any time of trial got better when people sat by and allowed the few made policy without hearing the minds and hearts of the many.
If the lovers of The Arts are many, lets support them in action. 
Don't let the government beat us to the box office.

-----Original Message-----
Date: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:34:53 pm
To: bud_graske at yahoo.com
Cc: neohiopal at listserve.com
From: Jack Kilroy <jpk1798 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Keep Government out of the Arts

Artists should be free to create regardless of an expectation of funding.
No censorship.

Individuals should support the arts.  Corporations should support the arts.
Government should support the arts.  Foundations and other concentrations of
wealth should support the arts.  Nonprofit organizations should support the
arts. The arts make for a better society, so the whole society and all of
its sectors should support the arts.

Jack Kilroy

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Bud Graske <bud_graske at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Oh, please ... Do you really believe gov't funding would come with no
> strings attached? Or perhaps that certain "right thinking" concepts will get
> a little extra funding, and that "wrong thinking" will not be funded
> aggressively? Do we really want to give politicians that much power?
>
> You praise Britain, where political correctness has banned teaching about
> the Holocaust in some schools? Hard to imagine a production of "Schindler's
> List" getting funded ... How about a play critical of Hammas?
> How about cartoons depicting the prophet? Is that art? Do we want
> politicians to decide?
>
> I find it disturbing to see how many artists equate a lack of funding with
> censorship. Any time one artist "deserves" funding from the gov't, you open
> the door to one artist deserving it MORE than another. Be careful what you
> wish for! "Who pays the piper calls the tune" is still true.
>
> Bud Graske
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/1/09, Noah Budin <nbudin at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Noah Budin <nbudin at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Keep Government out of the Arts
> > To: "neohiopal" <neohiopal at listserve.com>
> > Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 12:08 PM
> > The governments funding of the art is CRUCIAL to its
> > survival, on so many levels and for so many reasons. Arts
> > education should be included in this mix as well. Arts
> > education helps children develop an appreciation for the
> > arts and builds the foundation for a life of arts support.
> > But that's a whole topic unto itself.
> >
> > I just did a little preliminary research on line to grab
> > some stats. One can spend a lifetime researching and
> > documenting this - and I think the data comes out pretty
> > much the same - but here are some quick numbers:
> >
> > This from a Canadian study in 2003 - 2004 and the figures
> > are in Canadian dollars.
> > Per capita government arts spending:
> > England - $22.99
> > Scotland - $20.00
> > Austrailia - $6.19
> > Canada is pretty low at $4.15
> > But - and be proud, America! - here's the total govt.
> > arts funding per capita for the U.S. - $0.44
> >
> > Wow.
> >
> > Here's my source:
> >
> http://www.canadacouncil.ca/NR/rdonlyres/9C37F2C4-FB69-47C9-8227-EC8C46CAEACF/0/Comparisonsofartsfunding27Oct2005.pdf
> >
> > For some drier reading, try this:
> >
> > http://www.osborne-conant.org/arts_funding.htm#1
> >
> > Noah Budin
> > www.noahbudin.com
> >
> > --- On Sun, 2/1/09, MARC MORITZ
> > <marcmoritz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > From: MARC MORITZ <marcmoritz at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NEohio