[NEohioPAL] Brigham Young

Fri Apr 3 14:26:51 PDT 2009

I don;t have the time right now to describe how fatuous that statement is.

It's also laughable in view of the fact you connect a class of individuals with a country that has discriminated against them, had a president in Thabo Mbeki that denied their existence as well as denying an epidemic of AIDS.

If you may also remember, South Africa has had self determination for about fifteen years now, was grateful to have had as altruistic a man as Nelson Mandela who did not permit reprisals for past wrongs and had the sense and decency to step down after two terms in order not to establish a practice of regime like presidencies which is usually the rule in most sub-Saharan countries like Zimbabwe.  

Today, the problems in South Africa are not racial, but tribal.  The African National Congress is split this year going into the elections over its candidates all of whom are the same race.

To: learnedhand at live.com; neohiopal at listserve.com
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Brigham Young
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:07:07 -0400
From: vanbrujah at aol.com

As long as we, as a society, continue to discriminate against homosexuals, yes, we are exactly like South Africa.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Fortunato <learnedhand at live.com>
To: pblochowiak at gmail.com; andreajanelli at yahoo.com; neohiopal at listserve.com
Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Brigham Young

The LDS (not Mormon, Mormon was a name given to the LDS church somewhat in derisiveness) church may discriminate, but it is a private organization unlike a government, such as South Africa.  Finally, this country is not South Africa and I am loathe to seeing this great, exceptional country compared to countries that could never compete with it.

Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:27:33 -0400
From: pblochowiak at gmail.com
To: andreajanelli at yahoo.com; neohiopal at listserve.com
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Brigham Young

The Mormon Church chooses to discriminate.  Boycotting them is similar to the actions against South Africa.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Andrea Anelli <andreajanelli at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi!

   I was saddened by the tone of your recent letter to Neohiopal.  I  know many people who are not comfortable with redefining marriage, but they would never think to boycott artistic performances because the performers might be gay.  I think we need to rethink the approach.  The goal would be to convince people that you have the better idea, not to vilify them and convince others that they are bad people who should be banished from society, and whose artistic contributions, no matter how excellent, should be ignored.  Perhaps that is the way you feel though, an opinion to which you are entitled.  I personally feel that if the goal is to live together peacefully, we need to be willing to have a rational dialog with people  with whom we disagree.

Many Blessings,
Andrea Anelli

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