[NEohioPAL] What should you do if your Neohiopal account gets bounced?

Fred Sternfeld via NEohioPAL neohiopal at lists.neohiopal.org
Sun Mar 15 13:36:08 PDT 2015


*Hi Everybody,*

*There has been some chatter on Facebook (I copied and posted the Facebook
thread at the bottom of this email) recently voicing some dissatisfaction
with the fact that some subscribers keep getting bounced off the list for
no apparent reason. I share your frustration. *

*We are still trying to solve it, but the best solution is for you to
re-subscribe with a gmail account. *

*FYI, Conrad Yoder <https://www.facebook.com/conradgtyoder>, Noah Budin
<https://www.facebook.com/nbudin> and I regularly go in and re-subscribe
people who are bounced. *

*If you email Noah or I letting us know you were bounced, we will fix it
for you - fredsternfeld at neohiopal.org <fredsternfeld at neohiopal.org> or
nbudin at sbcglobal.net <nbudin at sbcglobal.net>.*

*Here is a forward of what was sent out to the list last year...*

---------- Forwarded message ----------




*From: Fred Sternfeld <fredsternfeld at neohiopal.org
<fredsternfeld at neohiopal.org>>Date: Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:40 AMSubject:
important ALERT for Neohiopal subscribersTo: *


*You may have noticed that Neohiopal bounces you off the list occasionally
and then gives you a link to resubscribe.  Some days there are a couple of
people bounced and some days scores.  Conrad Yoder, our webmaster, has been
manually resubscribing you - a big daily chore.*

*He has been working all angles to see what can be done about the RR
problem.  In talking with other Mailman admins, there does seem to be an
acknowledged consensus that Roadrunner / Time Warner has made the decision
to crack down on spam at the expense of their members being on large
mailing lists, like Neohiopal. *



*They “rate-limit” emails to them from single servers - even acknowledged
“good” servers - because spammers sometimes will shoot out a lot of emails
from one server.  Our Mailman server owners are attempting to work with
RR/TW to get them to change their policies, but we don’t know how much
success there will be.  *

*Since we don't know when or if this problem will be solved, I suggest
subscribing with gmail as they have a much saner spam filtering policy.  *





* -- Fred SternfeldNeohiopal Ltd. Owner and Administrator
fredsternfeld at neohiopal.org
<fredsternfeld at neohiopal.org>http://www.fredsternfeld.com/neohiopal/
<http://www.fredsternfeld.com/neohiopal.htm> *



-- 
Fred Sternfeld
Neohiopal Ltd. Owner and Administrator

fredsternfeld at neohiopal.org
http://www.fredsternfeld.com/neohiopal/
<http://www.fredsternfeld.com/neohiopal.htm>

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Adam V. Young <https://www.facebook.com/adam.v.young?fref=nf>
4 hrs <https://www.facebook.com/adam.v.young/posts/10206302805794165> ·

Anyone else have this problem?

"Your membership in the mailing list NEohioPAL has been disabled due to
excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 15-Mar-2015.
You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your
membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like this before your
membership in the list is deleted."

I have to do this about once a week. What I don't understand is CVS, Yankee
Candle, Amazon, Every Airline and rental car company, and a thousand other
commercial sites have no trouble reaching my inbox but...NEohioPAL gets
bounces? Is the NE Ohio theatre scene swapping THAT much porn and other
objectionable material? I feel.....so left out....
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   Jim Wolf <https://www.facebook.com/WolfmanJTW> and Don Bernardo
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   Tom Stephan
   <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008454017586&fref=ufi> Thanks,
   Adam Adam V. Young <https://www.facebook.com/adam.v.young> for writing
   about this! It happens to me at least once (sometimes twice!) a week, too.
   I don't get it.
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   Brian Pichola <https://www.facebook.com/brian.pichola?fref=ufi> I
   switched emails and reregistered 4 times and still don't get any emails.
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   Jim Wolf <https://www.facebook.com/WolfmanJTW?fref=ufi> It happened to
   me today. But I'm on the special content list......content I believe you
   are looking for Adam <https://www.facebook.com/adam.v.young>...
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   Adam V. Young <https://www.facebook.com/adam.v.young?fref=ufi> Just out
   of curiosity have any of you donated money to NEohiopal?
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   Michael Cranston <https://www.facebook.com/michael.cranston.16?fref=ufi> I
   haven't had this problem. Fred Sternfeld
   <https://www.facebook.com/fsternfeld>, is there a reason this is
   happening?
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   Tom Stephan
   <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008454017586&fref=ufi> Adam
   V. Young <https://www.facebook.com/adam.v.young>, I donate every year -
   have for a number of years now.
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   Keri Lawrenson Lambert <https://www.facebook.com/klambert99?fref=ufi> I've
   never had that problem, get multiple emails a day from them.
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   Jim Wolf <https://www.facebook.com/WolfmanJTW?fref=ufi> Not a nickel
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   Fred Sternfeld <https://www.facebook.com/fsternfeld?fref=ufi> I sent out
   a message to the list in April of 2014 describing the problem. It is a
   problem of the email services change in policy and not Neohiopal. We are
   still trying to solve it, but the best solution is for you to re-subscribe
   with a gmail account. FYI, Conrad Yoder
   <https://www.facebook.com/conradgtyoder>, Noah Budin
   <https://www.facebook.com/nbudin> and I regularly go in and re-subscribe
   people who are bounced. If you email me, I will do it for you. Here is a
   reprint of what was sent out to the list last year.
   ------------------------------

   You may have noticed that Neohiopal bounces you off the list
   occasionally and then gives you a link to resubscribe. Some days there are
   a couple of people bounced and some days scores. Conrad Yoder, our
   webmaster, has been manually resubscribing you - a big daily chore.
   He has been working all angles to see what can be done about the RR
   problem. In talking with other Mailman admins, there does seem to be an
   acknowledged consensus that Roadrunner / Time Warner has made the decision
   to crack down on spam at the expense of their members being on large
   mailing lists, like Neohiopal.
   They “rate-limit” emails to them from single servers - even acknowledged
   “good” servers - because spammers sometimes will shoot out a lot of emails
   from one server.

   Our Mailman server owners are attempting to work with RR/TW to get them
   to change their policies, but we don’t know how much success there will be.
   Since we don't know when or if this problem will be solved, I suggest
   subscribing with gmail as they have a much saner spam filtering policy.
   Just now
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   Fred Sternfeld <https://www.facebook.com/fsternfeld?fref=ufi> More info:
   Since that post went out last year, other email services have similar
   problems. You can anticipate that our webmaster Conrad Yoder
   <https://www.facebook.com/conradgtyoder> will add to this email stream
   to give you an update and more information.
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