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<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>Hi all,
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<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>To follow up Maureen's post about Choices and the
comment "the film editor, ultimately, who determines what is defined as
'art"...... How aware are we that a film can change to a completely different
animal as it changes format?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>I saw the film Crash (Oscar for Best Film) in the
theater and was awed and inspired by it and thought about it for days after. I
was going to recommend viewing the DVD to others who had missed it but when I
viewed the DVD I was shocked at the changes. The film deals with cultural and
racial stereotypes and how often these are wrong and misleading. DVD viewers
will not see many key scenes, including the car crash around which the story is
built! Viewers will scratch their heads, wondering why the Oscar was awarded and
totally missing some of the hard hitting message. Why was this film softened
when they had achieved perfection?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>Another case in point. I was gifted a DVD of
Daniel-Day Lewis' Last of the Mohicans to replace my aging VHS copy. But can I
toss the VHS? No because several of the choice lines uttered by Hawkeye to
Duncan to illustrate their growing animosity were deleted. Oh yes the DVD is
longer by a few minutes of extraneous footage, but the message and character
development suffered. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>So from my experience, even knowing what a team
effort a film is, the message at the least, is in the hands of the
editor.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>My advice to anyone interested in seeing Milk or
other film, particularly one with a controversial message, is see it in the
theater.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>I'd love to hear comments from anyone who can
shed light on this practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>Happy Viewing,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>Beverly Kristy<BR>440 487 6698<BR><A
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<A title=fromstage2screen@yahoo.com
href="mailto:fromstage2screen@yahoo.com">Maureen Dempsey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=neohiopal@listserve.com
href="mailto:neohiopal@listserve.com">neopal</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 19, 2008 1:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NEohioPAL] Got Milk?</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Oh, yes and
we are just scratching the surface of what goes on. When the big
shots in Hollywood say, "When you sit in a theater and watch a major
film on the big screen, it's a MIRACLE," it is! You can't imagine
all the hands that dip into the pot (that pot being the film).
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I
have a pile of scripts on my nightstand right now from a successful
Hollywood writer who has written for television and is about to have his
third major studio film made. They are all written about the same
story. The first one is FANTASTIC! I love it. And the
rest...well, it is downhill from there as all the players get
involved. And these are big names. The last script sent to
me the screenwriter took a Sharpie and put a line through his own
name. And this film doesn't start production until
spring.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I
use examples from the first script with my students for great
scenes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The latest script I
used to illustrate choices of opening scenes for a film.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The opening from the original
script was exciting and visually appealing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The latest version,
well…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">No, I can't
say who it is. It will be in all the theaters within two
years. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">But, the
studio executives are scared. Production Companies want sure
things and stars; well they have their own agendas. It is
endless. Then you have the personal issues of everyone involved
from, "That character reminds my newest wife of her ex-husband, change
him,” to “I have an issue from my childhood I want to deal with in
this role." Oh, you wouldn't believe what comes up.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">That being
said, a film is a team effort. Sometimes the collaboration brings
about junk and sometimes it produces Magic! You just never
know. We have all seen both.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">It
is always about choices. When the baby is yours you have to
choose. Choose how much to give up and for how much money.
My friend will make a great deal of money, as he has in the past.
His next project after one he is writing now for Robert Redford's
company he will probably produce independently on a low budget so that
he has control. CHOICES!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Lessons
learned. What will you do with your story?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Go! The
rise of Independent Filmmaking!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 12/18/08, Fred Sternfeld
<I><fsternfeld@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Fred Sternfeld <fsternfeld@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re:
[NEohioPAL] Got Milk?<BR>To: KevinJosephKelly@aol.com<BR>Cc:
neohiopal@listserve.com<BR>Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 11:03
PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:08 PM, <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:KevinJosephKelly@aol.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>KevinJosephKelly@aol.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>i saw the movie MILK this past weekend with about 10 gay
friends</DIV>
<DIV>at the end of the movie, we wept openly</DIV>
<DIV>we were moved about a story of one man who was strong enough to
care about his fellow glbt's so much, that he risked his
life so that glbt's could start to have a more secure future</DIV>
<DIV>you can say what you will about your feelings about the
performances, but what i can tell you is what all of us felt that
night, and that was a sense of pride that this story, this also
tragic story was told, and told in a way that we felt empowered
and proud to be out and gay in our society.</DIV>
<DIV>because to this day, it isn't easy for anyone</DIV>
<DIV>and by the way, at the end of the movie, the audience
applauded</DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>I agree Kevin. I saw MILK a few days ago and thought it was
an excellent movie and that Sean Penn's performance was worthy of an
Oscar nomination. </DIV>
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<DIV>respectfully</DIV>
<DIV>kjk</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 12/18/2008 4:34:01 P.M. Eastern Standard
Time, <A href="mailto:kulturekids@yahoo.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>kulturekids@yahoo.com</A> writes:</DIV>
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size=2>perhaps, but Gus Van Sant (Director) isn't exactly a
pushover...it might have just been bad for other reasons....making
a good movie is hard no matter how many talented people are
involved. <BR> The studio system was draconian,
yes...but DAMN if they didn't produce great films (much more so
than today).<BR>T.<BR><BR><BR>--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Christopher
Fortunato <<A href="mailto:learnedhand@live.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>learnedhand@live.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> From:
Christopher Fortunato <<A href="mailto:learnedhand@live.com"
target=_blank rel=nofollow>learnedhand@live.com</A>><BR>>
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Got Milk?<BR>> To: "Robert Hawkes"
<<A href="mailto:rhhawkes@gmail.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>rhhawkes@gmail.com</A>>, <A
href="mailto:neohiopal@listserve.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>neohiopal@listserve.com</A><BR>> Date: Thursday,
December 18, 2008, 1:12 PM<BR>> And that's probably because in
Hollywood today, the<BR>> actors drive the movie. Instead
of letting the director do<BR>> the stuff that needs to be
done, actors like Sean Penn start<BR>> stirring the pot.
Penn ruined the remake of "All The<BR>> King's Men" with his
one note performance. <BR>> That's because the actors are the
bankable ones, and<BR>> since money is power, they select the
director, the producer<BR>> et al.<BR>> <BR>> Could
you imagine telling Victoria Bussert, Tom Fulton,<BR>> Terri
Kent, Fred Sternfeld or Sue Johnson how to direct a<BR>> play
or musical? That's not to say they won't let<BR>> you try
things in rehearsal, but the director has to helm<BR>> the
project and needs to determine the final direction in<BR>>
order to create wonderful art. Having worked with all
of<BR>> them, I've felt confident in their direction as well
as<BR>> others.<BR>> <BR>> I don't doubt, Robert,
that Sean Penn stirred a lot of<BR>> stuff in creating that
movie.<BR>> <BR>> Chris<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:00:07 -0500From:<BR>>
rhhawkes@gmail.comTo: neohiopal@listserve.comSubject:<BR>>
[NEohioPAL] Got Milk?Milk - now playing at the Cedar-Lee
and<BR>> possibly elsewhere. See - here's what I mean: a
story<BR>> which would have been "powerful" if merely
told,<BR>> but which here thoroughly betrays wonderful actors
by klunky<BR>> writing, an appallingly manipulative musical
score, anxious<BR>> over-editing, distracting focus on the "up
close and<BR>> personal" People/In Touch elements - in short,
by a<BR>> completely successful attempt to make this film and
its<BR>> story as numbingly ORDINARY as possible. A tale of
big<BR>> issues becomes as trivial as Capote - a "tour
de<BR>> force" for its principal actor, but nothing more.
Just<BR>> more TV. What a disappointment. Argh. <BR>>
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