Well, being that NYC was mentioned, I feel I should have a say too. I just want to verify what that poster said about NYC (and LA, Chicago, etc.) I am from NYC (born and raised) and had a very difficult time getting anywhere in New York. My profession is the visual arts (Photography and Cinematography) and so often, indie directors and producers want you to MAKE their movie with no compensation. They insist you 1. own or 2. have access to your own camera and lighting gear (1. being incredibly expensive and 2. being incredibly difficult in such a closed industry) before they even consider you. This means they not only don't want to pay YOU, they don't even want to pay for the very supplies and equipment they NEED. This is a manifold problem because there are many skilled cinematographers who don't own their own equipment, but the filmmakers don't want to pay to rent it, so those cinematographers don't get a shot.<br>
<br>For the ones who do own or have access to equipment, they risk the wear and tear or potential damage of their equipment on uninsured shoots JUST to get the chance to MAYBE be on a film that goes somewhere. Meanwhile, as stated by several here, they have to coordinate all of this against the other stuff in their lives (day jobs, bill collectors who "don't want to hear it", families, etc.). As well as people like myself who DID have access to equipment, but had student loans to repay after studying cinematography for several years.<br>
<br>It is true that shooting a film or staging a play is expensive, and you do what you can to get it made. The film or the play or musical is your art. But composing music, lighting a scene narratively and beautifully, dancing, painting, etc., is ours. If you want respect for your work, you should understand that others should receive it for theirs. <br>
<br>I would go one further than most - credit is not enough. I've been credited on many go-nowhere productions. Barter should be the standard if you have no money. Fine you can't pay me. Well, then I need you to be there for me when I call for reciprocation. I'll shoot your film. With my equipment. For free. But when I need a skill set you own, then you must be willing to assist with all the effort that I allotted for you.<br>
<br clear="all">--<br>"Genius is often cloaked in simplicity..."<br><br>"Death is a train sounding its horn; and no matter how distant, one is always aware that it will arrive - probably too early - and on further inspection; you're tied to the tracks." <br>
<br>C. Wesley H. Crump<br>Visual Artist <br>Comedy Writer<br><a href="mailto:Wesley20@gmail.com" target="_blank">Wesley20@gmail.com</a><br><br>To view some of my work online at KiptonART, <br>Click here: <br>
<a href="http://www.kiptonart.com/artists/cwesleyh-crump/" target="_blank">http://www.kiptonart.com/artists/cwesleyh-crump/</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:51 PM, mike akers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:makers74@gmail.com">makers74@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
i recently made a post for help in scoring our film. i understand and agree with everyones response however i was ashamed and the negativity of our supposed "togetherness" in this NE ohio community and because of that i am not interested in anyones help or advice for this request. for all the positive feedback and advice i THANK YOU SO MUCH!. consider my request for help deleted.
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