Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne
I don't think anyone who subscribes to this list claims to be perfect. That includes me. That being said, it is hard to take a call for Mr. Berko to proofread seriously when your message cannot decide whether the word proofread is one word or two. (It is one by the way.) Worse yet you used the wrong form of too, meaning also. ("and perhaps Mr. Berko thinks so to") There are also a few punctuation errors. I don't consider myself the grammar police and I would normally not "call out" a post in a list on spelling and grammar but if you are going to stand as the one to police Mr. Berko about proofreading then you yourself should be above reproach in that manner.
Ms. Snively does not hold herself up as a professional writer. Mr. Berko does. From: JG via NEohioPAL <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> To: "neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org" <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne I don't think anyone who subscribes to this list claims to be perfect. That includes me. That being said, it is hard to take a call for Mr. Berko to proofread seriously when your message cannot decide whether the word proofread is one word or two. (It is one by the way.) Worse yet you used the wrong form of too, meaning also. ("and perhaps Mr. Berko thinks so to") There are also a few punctuation errors. I don't consider myself the grammar police and I would normally not "call out" a post in a list on spelling and grammar but if you are going to stand as the one to police Mr. Berko about proofreading then you yourself should be above reproach in that manner. ______________________________________ NEohioPAL is SELF-SERVE. If you need to unsubscribe, change from digest to one-at-a-time delivery or vice-versa, go on hiatus while out of town, switch from mime to plain text or vice-versa, etc. check out the FAQS at http://www.fredsternfeld.com. ______________________________________ Please consider a voluntary contribution to support Neohiopal - http://www.fredsternfeld.com/support-neohiopal/ ______________________________________ Disclaimer: The facts and/or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the person in the 'from' or 'reply-to' header. The fact that this message is posted should in no way be taken as an endorsement by the administrator of this list. Subscribers should perform due diligence for all goods, services and activities promoted on NEohioPAL. ________________________________________ NEohioPAL mailing list post@neohiopal.org http://lists.neohiopal.org/listinfo.cgi/neohiopal-neohiopal.org
As a college professor, I was very curious about the correct use of this word: proofread, proof-read, or proof read. I'm not defending, nor correcting anyone...just interested...an FYI, if you will. So I did some research, and contacted an expert. Someone whose job is reading, proofing, and editing books, plays, manuscripts, as well as writing their own work, and publishing their work. Here is the response I received from a Literary Agent at Curtis Brown, LTD, NYC, the third biggest Literary Agency in the country. They know! They are a pro! Just saying... You pose a very interesting question, which actually has a simple answer: they are all correct. The word proof read and/or proof reader has followed a standard etymological pattern. It started as two words, then became hyphenated, and now is most often used as a single word. So, while it would be the most up to date to use proofread and proofreader, you could use any form and technically still be correct. Our language is constantly evolving, so at any given point in time, certain words or word usages that were once incorrect have became correct. ________________________________ From: NEohioPAL [neohiopal-bounces@lists.neohiopal.org] on behalf of Curt Arnold via NEohioPAL [neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:15 AM To: JG; neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne Ms. Snively does not hold herself up as a professional writer. Mr. Berko does. ________________________________ From: JG via NEohioPAL <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> To: "neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org" <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne I don't think anyone who subscribes to this list claims to be perfect. That includes me. That being said, it is hard to take a call for Mr. Berko to proofread seriously when your message cannot decide whether the word proofread is one word or two. (It is one by the way.) Worse yet you used the wrong form of too, meaning also. ("and perhaps Mr. Berko thinks so to") There are also a few punctuation errors. I don't consider myself the grammar police and I would normally not "call out" a post in a list on spelling and grammar but if you are going to stand as the one to police Mr. Berko about proofreading then you yourself should be above reproach in that manner. ______________________________________ NEohioPAL is SELF-SERVE. If you need to unsubscribe, change from digest to one-at-a-time delivery or vice-versa, go on hiatus while out of town, switch from mime to plain text or vice-versa, etc. check out the FAQS at http://www.fredsternfeld.com. ______________________________________ Please consider a voluntary contribution to support Neohiopal - http://www.fredsternfeld.com/support-neohiopal/ ______________________________________ Disclaimer: The facts and/or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the person in the 'from' or 'reply-to' header. The fact that this message is posted should in no way be taken as an endorsement by the administrator of this list. Subscribers should perform due diligence for all goods, services and activities promoted on NEohioPAL. ________________________________________ NEohioPAL mailing list post@neohiopal.org<mailto:post@neohiopal.org> http://lists.neohiopal.org/listinfo.cgi/neohiopal-neohiopal.org
Aside from the well-made point that "Ms. Snively does not hold herself up as a professional writer. Mr. Berko does," I think it's worth mentioning that she has a lead role in the show being reviewed, so she kinda knows what she's talking about. Apparently Mr. Berko thought so, too, because he corrected his review. Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 22, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Zoldessy, Brian via NEohioPAL <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> wrote:
As a college professor, I was very curious about the correct use of this word: proofread, proof-read, or proof read. I'm not defending, nor correcting anyone...just interested...an FYI, if you will. So I did some research, and contacted an expert. Someone whose job is reading, proofing, and editing books, plays, manuscripts, as well as writing their own work, and publishing their work.
Here is the response I received from a Literary Agent at Curtis Brown, LTD, NYC, the third biggest Literary Agency in the country. They know! They are a pro! Just saying...
You pose a very interesting question, which actually has a simple answer: they are all correct.
The word proof read and/or proof reader has followed a standard etymological pattern. It started as two words, then became hyphenated, and now is most often used as a single word. So, while it would be the most up to date to use proofread and proofreader, you could use any form and technically still be correct. Our language is constantly evolving, so at any given point in time, certain words or word usages that were once incorrect have became correct.
From: NEohioPAL [neohiopal-bounces@lists.neohiopal.org] on behalf of Curt Arnold via NEohioPAL [neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:15 AM To: JG; neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne
Ms. Snively does not hold herself up as a professional writer. Mr. Berko does.
From: JG via NEohioPAL <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> To: "neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org" <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne
I don't think anyone who subscribes to this list claims to be perfect. That includes me. That being said, it is hard to take a call for Mr. Berko to proofread seriously when your message cannot decide whether the word proofread is one word or two. (It is one by the way.) Worse yet you used the wrong form of too, meaning also. ("and perhaps Mr. Berko thinks so to") There are also a few punctuation errors. I don't consider myself the grammar police and I would normally not "call out" a post in a list on spelling and grammar but if you are going to stand as the one to police Mr. Berko about proofreading then you yourself should be above reproach in that manner.
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And the "Mic Drop" award goes to.........................Alice Gulick. Congratulations. Kevin Joseph Kelly TPOG On Thursday, September 24, 2015, Alice Gulick via NEohioPAL <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> wrote: Aside from the well-made point that "Ms. Snively does not hold herself up as a professional writer. Mr. Berko does," I think it's worth mentioning that she has a lead role in the show being reviewed, so she kinda knows what she's talking about. Apparently Mr. Berko thought so, too, because he corrected his review. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Zoldessy, Brian via NEohioPAL <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> wrote: As a college professor, I was very curious about the correct use of this word: proofread, proof-read, or proof read. I'm not defending, nor correcting anyone...just interested...an FYI, if you will. So I did some research, and contacted an expert. Someone whose job is reading, proofing, and editing books, plays, manuscripts, as well as writing their own work, and publishing their work. Here is the response I received from a Literary Agent at Curtis Brown, LTD, NYC, the third biggest Literary Agency in the country. They know! They are a pro! Just saying... You pose a very interesting question, which actually has a simple answer: they are all correct. The word proof read and/or proof reader has followed a standard etymological pattern. It started as two words, then became hyphenated, and now is most often used as a single word. So, while it would be the most up to date to use proofread and proofreader, you could use any form and technically still be correct. Our language is constantly evolving, so at any given point in time, certain words or word usages that were once incorrect have became correct. From: NEohioPAL [neohiopal-bounces@lists.neohiopal.org] on behalf of Curt Arnold via NEohioPAL [neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:15 AM To: JG; neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne Ms. Snively does not hold herself up as a professional writer. Mr. Berko does. From: JG via NEohioPAL <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> To: "neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org" <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne I don't think anyone who subscribes to this list claims to be perfect. That includes me. That being said, it is hard to take a call for Mr. Berko to proofread seriously when your message cannot decide whether the word proofread is one word or two. (It is one by the way.) Worse yet you used the wrong form of too, meaning also. ("and perhaps Mr. Berko thinks so to") There are also a few punctuation errors. I don't consider myself the grammar police and I would normally not "call out" a post in a list on spelling and grammar but if you are going to stand as the one to police Mr. Berko about proofreading then you yourself should be above reproach in that manner. ______________________________________ NEohioPAL is SELF-SERVE. If you need to unsubscribe, change from digest to one-at-a-time delivery or vice-versa, go on hiatus while out of town, switch from mime to plain text or vice-versa, etc. check out the FAQS at http://www.fredsternfeld.com. ______________________________________ Please consider a voluntary contribution to support Neohiopal - http://www.fredsternfeld.com/support-neohiopal/ ______________________________________ Disclaimer: The facts and/or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the person in the 'from' or 'reply-to' header. The fact that this message is posted should in no way be taken as an endorsement by the administrator of this list. Subscribers should perform due diligence for all goods, services and activities promoted on NEohioPAL. ________________________________________ NEohioPAL mailing list post@neohiopal.org http://lists.neohiopal.org/listinfo.cgi/neohiopal-neohiopal.org ______________________________________ NEohioPAL is SELF-SERVE. If you need to unsubscribe, change from digest to one-at-a-time delivery or vice-versa, go on hiatus while out of town, switch from mime to plain text or vice-versa, etc. check out the FAQS at http://www.fredsternfeld.com. ______________________________________ Please consider a voluntary contribution to support Neohiopal - http://www.fredsternfeld.com/support-neohiopal/ ______________________________________ Disclaimer: The facts and/or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the person in the 'from' or 'reply-to' header. The fact that this message is posted should in no way be taken as an endorsement by the administrator of this list. Subscribers should perform due diligence for all goods, services and activities promoted on NEohioPAL. ________________________________________ NEohioPAL mailing list post@neohiopal.org http://lists.neohiopal.org/listinfo.cgi/neohiopal-neohiopal.org
Proofreading would be nice. Editing - by an editor - for reviewers and playwrights alike - would be even nicer. But that sun has set long since. On Sep 25, 2015 8:03 AM, "Kevin Kelly via NEohioPAL" < neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> wrote:
And the "Mic Drop" award goes to.........................Alice Gulick. Congratulations.
Kevin Joseph Kelly TPOG
On Thursday, September 24, 2015, Alice Gulick via NEohioPAL < neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> wrote:
Aside from the well-made point that "Ms. Snively does not hold herself up as a professional writer. Mr. Berko does," I think it's worth mentioning that she has a lead role in the show being reviewed, so she kinda knows what she's talking about. Apparently Mr. Berko thought so, too, because he corrected his review.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 22, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Zoldessy, Brian via NEohioPAL < neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> wrote:
As a college professor, I was very curious about the correct use of this word: proofread, proof-read, or proof read. I'm not defending, nor correcting anyone...just interested...an FYI, if you will. So I did some research, and contacted an expert. Someone whose job is reading, proofing, and editing books, plays, manuscripts, as well as writing their own work, and publishing their work.
Here is the response I received from a Literary Agent at Curtis Brown, LTD, NYC, the third biggest Literary Agency in the country. They know! They are a pro! Just saying...
You pose a very interesting question, which actually has a simple answer: they are all correct.
The word proof read and/or proof reader has followed a standard etymological pattern. It started as two words, then became hyphenated, and now is most often used as a single word. So, while it would be the most up to date to use proofread and proofreader, you could use any form and technically still be correct. Our language is constantly evolving, so at any given point in time, certain words or word usages that were once incorrect have became correct.
------------------------------ *From:* NEohioPAL [neohiopal-bounces@lists.neohiopal.org] on behalf of Curt Arnold via NEohioPAL [neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:15 AM *To:* JG; neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org *Subject:* Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne
Ms. Snively does not hold herself up as a professional writer. Mr. Berko does.
------------------------------ *From:* JG via NEohioPAL <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> *To:* "neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org" <neohiopal@lists.neohiopal.org> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:45 AM *Subject:* Re: [NEohioPAL] Proofreading Reviews Before Publishing by Lenne
I don't think anyone who subscribes to this list claims to be perfect. That includes me. That being said, it is hard to take a call for Mr. Berko to proofread seriously when your message cannot decide whether the word proofread is one word or two. (It is one by the way.) Worse yet you used the wrong form of too, meaning also. ("and perhaps Mr. Berko thinks so to") There are also a few punctuation errors. I don't consider myself the grammar police and I would normally not "call out" a post in a list on spelling and grammar but if you are going to stand as the one to police Mr. Berko about proofreading then you yourself should be above reproach in that manner.
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