[NEohioPAL]A request from my fellow listers

Fred Sternfeld fsternfeld at fredsternfeld.com
Wed May 7 11:34:01 PDT 2003


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Hi Everyone !

I want to respond to Kathleen Cromie's excellent comments below and clarify
again the policy on attachments and graphics.

Attachments and graphics are not permitted in NEohioPAL postings.  I review
all postings and reject the postings with attachments and graphics. When I
reject them I always send instructions how to post (reprinted below)and ask
the poster to resubmit with corrections. I have been able to screen out over
95% of the postings with graphics.  The reason some postings are approved
with graphics is by accident.  The system only shows me a 'request for
posting' in html form and only a partial section of the body of the e-mail.
Sometimes I simply can't tell there is an attachment or graphics.  An
unfortunate flaw in the system, but I'll continue to do my best to make
posters stick to the policies.

Regards,

Fred Sternfeld
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Here is a re-print of what I send to people when I reject a posting...

Here are complete instructions how to post. Please read them, adjust your
posting and then resubmit...

1)   To post a message to the NE Ohio Performing Arts list, please send your
message to this e-mail address: NEohioPAL at lists.fredsternfeld.com

2)  Don't send a private message to me in the body of the posting as
everything that you send will get posted to the list. The "mailman" system
does not allow me to edit your message or your subject line.  The mere act
of sending your message to the above address will tell me you want to post
it to the list.

3)  The subscribers of NEohioPAL receive around 40-80 postings per week.
Because of this they are very selective about which postings they actually
open and read and which they delete.  From the feedback I've gotten,
messages must have very specific information in the subject line to have a
reasonable chance of actually being open and read. At the minimum, the
subject line should contain the producing organization and event. Here are
some examples of good subject lines.

·       1/2 price tickets to neohiopal - Cuyahoga Players present Sondheim's
"Pacific Overtures"
·       Auditions for "Medea" at Lake Erie Theatre
·       Euclid Theatre spring drama classes for ages 7-14
·       Plain Dealer Review of Bay Village Player's "The Crucible"

Also, if you are a private citizen expressing an opinion about a production
you should prefix your subject line with "Personal Review of." or "Personal
Opinion of."  If you are a professional critic (paid by the media to review)
you should prefix your reviews with "Review of."

4)  Put your message in plain text or html in the body of the e-mail. Basic
formatting is okay (fonts, point size, color, centering, etc.)

5)  NO ATTACHMENTS AND NO GRAPHICS!!!  Some people have their mailboxes set
to not accept attachments and I am wary of accidentally forwarding a virus.
Also, the subscribers do not want their mailboxes stuffed with large files.
If you want to have people view pictures and graphics then include a link to
a website.

6)  Carefully edit and spell-check your message.

7)  Give ALL the basics: Who, What, When, Where and Contact information.

8)  If people reply to your message, it will go directly back to you. The
e-mail address you originate it from will appear in the reply-to field in
the header.

For more information about the list and "Frequently Asked Questions" you can
visit my website:  http://www.fredsternfeld.com

Warm Regards,
Fred Sternfeld




-----Original Message-----
From: neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com
[mailto:neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com]On Behalf Of Kathleen
Cromie
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:57 AM
To: neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com
Subject: [NEohioPAL]A request from my fellow listers


I'm sure you're all beautiful.  I'm sure the font on your advertiesment is
perfect.  I'm sure your artwork is a gift fit for no less than the Photoshop
7 Gods themselves.

But my inbox just can't handle all those images.

If you think an image of your posters or actual artwork (Hobbits, I'm
talking to you) will make me more intersted in your message, than I'm afraid
you've neglected to modify your advertising campiagn to the unique demands
of email.  I. E. space, and what we do when we don't have it (delete first,
ask questions later).

So this message is not just for the sake of my straining inbox and the
personal and proffessional emails that get bounced back to sender unseen by
me because someone just had to include artwork  - it's also for the sake of
your message, which we'll all be less inclined to curse (and more inclinced
to read) if we're not trying to calculate how 40% of our inbox space could
be wiped out with one Annie auditions notice.

I'm sure that if the senders are a little more mindful of this problem in
the future, the receivers will be able to read and possibly respond to more
of this list's valuable notices.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely yours,

Kathleen "K.C." Cromie

PS: The "Annie" mention was just a generic example, but I have in the past
had one email from Fred's List wipe out almost 40% of my space - lest anyone
think those of us with this problem are just refusing to use our delete
button and then blaming others when our inbox can take no more.


A survey at Harvard found that only 3% of students had a written list of
life goals.  Years later, those 3% were doing better than the other 97%
combined.

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the body=20
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<P><STRONG>Regards,</STRONG></P>
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post. Please read them, adjust your posting and then=20
resubmit...<BR><BR>1)   To post a message to the NE Ohio =
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Arts list, please send your message to this e-mail address:=20
NEohioPAL at lists.fredsternfeld.com<BR><BR>2)  Don't send a private =
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address=20
will tell me you want to post it to the list.<BR><BR>3)  The =
subscribers of=20
NEohioPAL receive around 40-80 postings per week. Because of this they =
are very=20
selective about which postings they actually open and read and which =
they=20
delete.  From the feedback I've gotten, messages must have very =
specific=20
information in the subject line to have a reasonable chance of actually =
being=20
open and read. At the minimum, the subject line should contain the =
producing=20
organization and event. Here are some examples of good subject=20
lines.<BR><BR>=B7       1/2 price tickets =
to=20
neohiopal - Cuyahoga Players present Sondheim's "Pacific=20
Overtures"<BR>=B7       Auditions for =
"Medea" at=20
Lake Erie Theatre<BR>=B7       Euclid =
Theatre spring=20
drama classes for ages 7-14<BR>=B7       =
Plain=20
Dealer Review of Bay Village Player's "The Crucible"<BR><BR>Also, if you =
are a=20
private citizen expressing an opinion about a production you should =
prefix your=20
subject line with "Personal Review of." or "Personal Opinion of."  =
If you=20
are a professional critic (paid by the media to review) you should =
prefix your=20
reviews with "Review of."<BR><BR>4)  Put your message in plain text =
or html=20
in the body of the e-mail. Basic formatting is okay (fonts, point size, =
color,=20
centering, etc.) <BR><BR>5)  NO ATTACHMENTS AND NO =
GRAPHICS!!! =20
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wary of=20
accidentally forwarding a virus.  Also, the subscribers do not want =
their=20
mailboxes stuffed with large files.  If you want to have people =
view=20
pictures and graphics then include a link to a =
website. <BR><BR>6) =20
Carefully edit and spell-check your message.<BR><BR>7)  Give ALL =
the=20
basics: Who, What, When, Where and Contact information.<BR><BR>8)  =
If=20
people reply to your message, it will go directly back to you. The =
e-mail=20
address you originate it from will appear in the reply-to field in the=20
header.<BR><BR>For more information about the list and "Frequently Asked =

Questions" you can visit my website:  <A=20
href=3D"http://www.fredsternfeld.com"=20
target=3D_blank>http://www.fredsternfeld.com</A><BR><BR>Warm =
Regards,<BR>Fred=20
Sternfeld<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:=20
neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com<BR>[<A=20
href=3D"mailto:neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com">mailto:neohiopal-=
admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com</A>]On=20
Behalf Of Kathleen<BR>Cromie<BR>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:57 =
AM<BR>To:=20
neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com<BR>Subject: [NEohioPAL]A request from =
my=20
fellow listers<BR><BR><BR>I'm sure you're all beautiful.  I'm sure =
the font=20
on your advertiesment is<BR>perfect.  I'm sure your artwork is a =
gift fit=20
for no less than the Photoshop<BR>7 Gods themselves.<BR><BR>But my inbox =
just=20
can't handle all those images.<BR><BR>If you think an image of your =
posters or=20
actual artwork (Hobbits, I'm<BR>talking to you) will make me more =
intersted in=20
your message, than I'm afraid<BR>you've neglected to modify your =
advertising=20
campiagn to the unique demands<BR>of email.  I. E. space, and what =
we do=20
when we don't have it (delete first,<BR>ask questions later).<BR><BR>So =
this=20
message is not just for the sake of my straining inbox and =
the<BR>personal and=20
proffessional emails that get bounced back to sender unseen by<BR>me =
because=20
someone just had to include artwork  - it's also for the sake =
of<BR>your=20
message, which we'll all be less inclined to curse (and more =
inclinced<BR>to=20
read) if we're not trying to calculate how 40% of our inbox space =
could<BR>be=20
wiped out with one Annie auditions notice.<BR><BR>I'm sure that if the =
senders=20
are a little more mindful of this problem in<BR>the future, the =
receivers will=20
be able to read and possibly respond to more<BR>of this list's valuable=20
notices.<BR><BR>Thank you for your time.<BR><BR>Sincerely =
yours,<BR><BR>Kathleen=20
"K.C." Cromie<BR><BR>PS: The "Annie" mention was just a generic example, =
but I=20
have in the past<BR>had one email from Fred's List wipe out almost 40% =
of my=20
space - lest anyone<BR>think those of us with this problem are just =
refusing to=20
use our delete<BR>button and then blaming others when our inbox can take =
no=20
more.<BR><BR><BR>A survey at Harvard found that only 3% of students had =
a=20
written list of<BR>life goals.  Years later, those 3% were doing =
better=20
than the other=20
97%<BR>combined.<BR><BR>_________________________________________________=
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