[NEohioPAL]Re:Theatre question
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Michael,
You make a good point.
I think auditioning is a great experience but there is a part of me that believes as you do.
This is my hobby. I do not have time to waste auditioning for a show that has been pre-cast.
It has happened to me more than once.
I do not like this practice of pre-casting shows because it prohibits another actor that may be better for the part from auditioning.
It seems close minded and clique-y.
In this day when most theaters struggle to cast shows it would seem to me that the plan would be to keep auditions open and all parts available in an attempt to generate a greater turn out at auditions.
My high school director taught me something that I have never forgotten.
No matter how talented you are; no matter how experienced you are; no matter how good you may be for a role, there is someone out there more talented, more experienced, and perhaps better for the part than you are.
I have no problem with a director who has someone they know in mind for a part and that they ask that person to audition for them. As long as that director keeps an open mind at auditions and realizes that someone better for the role may come along.
I think that theaters and directors should abolish the practice of pre-casting and/or casting professional actors.
It is called community theater.
At the very least, if a theater or director has pre-cast a part or parts in a show, they should notify the public within their audition notice.
Some do. Most do not.
Take care,
Mark DePompei
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From: melissa day <melissaday at tarvalon.net>
To: mjr64 at adelphia.net
Cc: neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com
Sent: Fri, 5 May 2006 05:20:02 -0700
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL]Re:Theatre question
I often ask myself the same question as Joe and have read the responses, but I think maybe what is being asked is being missed. Like Joe, I do theater for FUN - its not a career and is not going to be a career. While I understand the need to "practice" or "be seen" especially for those of you who have an interest in doing theater in some professional capacity, those of us who do this as an extra hobby don't necessarily have the time.
When I hear through the grapevine that a show is essentially pre-cast I don't even show up. Why? Its going to be a waste of my time to spend four or more ours of one of my nights when I probably should be getting other work done. IF a director pre-casts fine - I don't care - but it better be told in the audition notice. I have tried going to these auditions in the past and EVERY SINGLE TIME who I heard was pre-cast was actually cast in those roles.
So I guess the real question is - should a director be required to inform auditinee's that parts are pre cast.
--- mjr64 at adelphia.net wrote:
From: "Michael Rubin " <mjr64 at adelphia.net>
To: <neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com>
Subject: [NEohioPAL]Re:Theatre question
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 19:58:00 -0400
Three major reasons to attend an audition even if theatre does not disclose casting decisions ahead of time.
A good director will test you to see if directable Maybe reading a part for which you're not a fit( 40 year old reading a grandpa role)just so others in the cast can read a possible part.(Translation-are you a team player?).Read the off role with same respect as the role you really want.They will keep your professionalism in mind when casting another show.
Second,networking.You will meet others in the lobby or holding.Get to know people.
Finally,and as mentioned before,any audition is good practice.Take an audition class from the folks who advertise on this list.
Michael Rubin
_____________________________________ Ohio Premiere of James Sherman's "From Door to Door" produced by the JCC in association with Tri C East Theatre Arts. Directed by Fred Sternfeld; featuring Liz Conway, Jeanne Task & Barbara Haas. May 4-21. Tickets.com. Special pre-show and post-show appearance and talk-back by playwright James Sherman at the Saturday, May 13 performance. http://www.fredsternfeld.com/fromdoortodoor.htm _______________________________________ Fairmount Performing Arts Camp registration now open. Details @ http://www.fairmountcenter.org/fpac06/index.htm ___________________________________ There is a sister site to this list called the "NEoPAL Bulletin Board." Occasionally when "hot-button" discussions go on more than a day or two, the bulletin board is used: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neopal/ _______________________________________ Disclaimer: The facts and/or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the person in the "from" or "reply-to" header. The fact that this message is posted should in no way be taken as an endorsement by the administrator of this list. Subscribers should perform due diligence for all goods, services and activities promoted on NEohioPAL. NEohioPAL mailing list NEohioPAL at lists.fredsternfeld.com http://lists.fredsternfeld.com/mailman/listinfo/neohiopal
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<DIV> Michael,</DIV>
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<DIV>You make a good point.</DIV>
<DIV>I think auditioning is a great experience but there is a part of me that believes as you do. </DIV>
<DIV>This is my hobby. I do not have time to waste auditioning for a show that has been pre-cast. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It has happened to me more than once.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I do not like this practice of pre-casting shows because it prohibits another actor that may be better for the part from auditioning. </DIV>
<DIV>It seems close minded and clique-y. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In this day when most theaters struggle to cast shows it would seem to me that the plan would be to keep auditions open and all parts available in an attempt to generate a greater turn out at auditions. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My high school director taught me something that I have never forgotten.</DIV>
<DIV>No matter how talented you are; no matter how experienced you are; no matter how good you may be for a role, there is someone out there more talented, more experienced, and perhaps better for the part than you are. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have no problem with a director who has someone they know in mind for a part and that they ask that person to audition for them. As long as that director keeps an open mind at auditions and realizes that someone better for the role may come along.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think that theaters and directors should abolish the practice of pre-casting and/or casting professional actors.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It is called community theater.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>At the very least, if a theater or director has pre-cast a part or parts in a show, they should notify the public within their audition notice.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Some do. Most do not.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Take care,</DIV>
<DIV>Mark <SPAN class=correction id="">DePompei</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>I often ask myself the same question as Joe and have read the responses, but I think maybe what is being asked is being missed. Like Joe, I do theater for FUN - its not a career and is not going to be a career. While I understand the need to "practice" or "be seen" especially for those of you who have an interest in doing theater in some professional capacity, those of us who do this as an extra hobby don't necessarily have the time.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When I hear through the grapevine that a show is essentially pre-cast I don't even show up. Why? Its going to be a waste of my time to spend four or more ours of one of my nights when I probably should be getting other work done. IF a director pre-casts fine - I don't care - but it better be told in the audition notice. I have tried going to these auditions in the past and EVERY SINGLE TIME who I heard was pre-cast was actually cast in those roles.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So I guess the real question is - should a director be required to inform <SPAN class=correction id="">auditinee's</SPAN> that parts are pre cast.<BR><BR>--- mjr64 at adelphia.net wrote:<BR><BR>From: "Michael Rubin " <mjr64 at adelphia.net><BR>To: <neohiopal at lists.fredsternfeld.com><BR>Subject: [NEohioPAL]Re:Theatre question<BR>Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 19:58:00 -0400<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Three major reasons to attend an audition even if theatre does not disclose casting decisions ahead of time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A good director will test you to see if <SPAN class=correction id="">directable</SPAN> Maybe reading a part for which you're not a fit( 40 year old reading a grandpa role)just so others in the cast can read a possible part.(Translation-are you a team player?).Read the off role with same respect as the role you really want.</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>They will keep your professionalism in mind when casting another show.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Second,networking.You will meet others in the lobby or holding.Get to know people.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Finally,and as mentioned before,any audition is good practice.Take an audition class from the folks who advertise on this list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michael Rubin</FONT></DIV></DIV>_____________________________________ Ohio Premiere of James <SPAN class=correction id="">Sherman's</SPAN> "From Door to Door" produced by the <SPAN class=correction id="">JCC</SPAN> in association with <SPAN class=correction id="">Tri</SPAN> C East Theatre Arts. Directed by Fred <SPAN class=correction id="">Sternfeld</SPAN>; featuring Liz Conway, Jeanne Task & Barbara Haas. May 4-21. Tickets.com. Special pre-show and post-show appearance and talk-back by playwright James Sherman at the Saturday, May 13 performance. http://www.fredsternfeld.com/fromdoortodoor.htm _______________________________________ <SPAN class=correction id="">Fairmount</SPAN> Performing Arts Camp registration now open. Details @ http://www.fairmountcenter.org/fpac06/index.htm ___________________________________ There is a sister site to this list called the "NEoPAL Bulletin Board." Occasionally when "hot-button" discussions go on more than a day or two, the bulletin board is used: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neopal/ _______________________________________ Disclaimer: The facts and/or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the person in the "from" or "reply-to" header. The fact that this message is posted should in no way be taken as an endorsement by the administrator of this list. Subscribers should perform due diligence for all goods, services and activities promoted on NEohioPAL. NEohioPAL mailing list NEohioPAL at lists.fredsternfeld.com http://lists.fredsternfeld.com/mailman/listinfo/neohiopal </DIV><!-- end of AOLMsgPart_0_e64c6a78-a211-470b-8250-6afd2f90d39c -->
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