[NEohioPAL]An Open Letter to Johnny Wu and NEohioPal Regarding Music for Movies

Johnny K. Wu johnny at mdifilm.com
Wed Aug 1 16:51:21 PDT 2007


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Hi Bruce, well said, my post was merely to provide an option for anyone who
might be interested, if there is something for free for anyone: filmmakers,
students, nonprofit org. or even other composers that can find it useful,
why not share that information instead of holding it off for oneself? 

 

I am all for using local talent; I've had my share of working with local
talents such as composers, bands, performers, actors, crews, etc. I have
also been turned down or ignored when I made a request for collaboration, so
I know how frustrated that can be, but that never stops me to continue
better myself or continue working with people and continue seeking others
out (local or global).

 

I usually will continue to work with those I've worked with before because
they were there for me and now I would share my success or failure again
with them. This is a given. That doesn't mean I won't listen to other
people's work, but I would be keener to work with those who helped me first.
Also please keep in mind, not every music/score/band would fit well to what
the video/film be, so we have to be selective. Same goes to those who choose
not to work with me, it's a selection they've made, I'll have to deal with
that and move on. 

 

As I've said to you in the past, go out and be everywhere and slowly the
swing of things will start falling in-path with your needs, it is a process,
just don't stop trying. ;)

 

NEOPAL list is a community list, we post information on what is available
locally or nationally that can benefit anyone, a post can be a treasure to
one but it can be poison to others. Ultimately, it is a choice. 

 

Hope you get a chance to meet with more filmmakers and network at the Indie
Gathering event that is coming up. Again, it's a choice if you want to use
this opportunity to meet with filmmakers that *might* need your talent or
you choose not to.

 

Sincerely,

 

Johnny Wu

www.mdifilm.com <http://www.mdifilm.com/> 

www.rapturethemovie.com <http://www.rapturethemovie.com/> 

 

 

 

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From: neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com
[mailto:neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Jennings
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 6:02 PM
To: NEohioPAL at lists.fredsternfeld.com
Subject: [NEohioPAL]An Open Letter to Johnny Wu and NEohioPal Regarding
Music for Movies

 

Dear Mr.Wu ,

 

I'm writing in response to your post today concerning Moby's offer of free
music to film makers. Although I respect your tireless work on behalf of
independent film in Cleveland, I must emphatically disagree with this
approach of looking much further than our own region for music for film, no
matter how noble Moby's intentions may be.

 

I know that there are many local musicians and composers who would jump at
scoring independent film if given the chance, myself included. In fact, a
short time ago I had successfully done so. I considered my collaboration
with the director as one of the most challenging and rewarding projects I've
undertaken. 

 

Fresh from that success I was motivated to find other film jobs.
Unfortunately, other local filmmakers were not as interested in
collaboration. One in particular went out of his way to secure rights for
music he pulled from his CD collection. Others have opted to not include
music in their project; others use music without permission. 

 

I've had film makers say to me that they felt an original score was a good
idea at one time, but as the production dates flew by there was no more time
to collaborate - at which point they succumbed to one of the other ways of
obtaining music I've described. Can one imagine a film maker saying, "Well,
I thought having actors in my film but the time ran out.so I just went with
filming actors off my television." Though I realize the absurdity of that
statement, it helps to illustrate my point. 

 

I'm not saying that there are not recent or current local film maker / local
composer collaborations that have worked out. I know of a couple composers
that have worked very steadily over the past few years. But there needs to
be more urgency on behalf of the local indie film maker to find local film
music artists. Just as technology has provided visual artists with the means
of reliable and inexpensive ways of editing their work on personal
computers, so to have musicians benefited from being able to produce
professional-grade music from their home studios. 

 

To sum up, I have nothing against Moby, but he's probably got more gigs than
he can shake a stick at. Why not give local composers, producers and
musicians a chance when movie music is needed? Why not let NEohioPAL be the
conduit for making these connections. 

 

I remain respectfully yours,

 

Bruce Jennings

Shaker Heights, Ohio.

 

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Bruce, well said, my post was =
merely to
provide an option for anyone who might be interested, if there is =
something for
free for anyone: filmmakers, students, nonprofit org. or even other =
composers
that can find it useful, why not share that information instead of =
holding it
off for oneself? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am all for using local talent; =
I’ve
had my share of working with local talents such as composers, bands, =
performers,
actors, crews, etc. I have also been turned down or ignored when I made =
a
request for collaboration, so I know how frustrated that can be, but =
that never
stops me to continue better myself or continue working with people and =
continue
seeking others out (local or global).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I usually will continue to work =
with those
I’ve worked with before because they were there for me and now I =
would
share my success or failure again with them. This is a given. That =
doesn’t
mean I won’t listen to other people’s work, but I would be =
keener
to work with those who helped me first.  Also please keep in mind, =
not
every music/score/band would fit well to what the video/film be, so we =
have to
be selective. Same goes to those who choose not to work with me, =
it’s a
selection they’ve made, I’ll have to deal with that and move =
on. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I’ve said to you in the =
past, go
out and be everywhere and slowly the swing of things will start falling =
in-path
with your needs, it is a process, just don’t stop trying. =
;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>NEOPAL list is a community list, we =
post
information on what is available locally or nationally that can benefit =
anyone,
a post can be a treasure to one but it can be poison to others… =
Ultimately,
it is a choice. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hope you get a chance to meet with =
more filmmakers
and network at the Indie Gathering event that is coming up. Again, =
it’s a
choice if you want to use this opportunity to meet with filmmakers that =
*<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>might</span></b>* need your talent or you =
choose not
to.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Johnny =
Wu<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a =
href=3D"http://www.mdifilm.com/">www.mdifilm.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a =
href=3D"http://www.rapturethemovie.com/">www.rapturethemovie.com</a><o:p>=
</o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com
[mailto:neohiopal-admin at lists.fredsternfeld.com] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bruce Jennings<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August =
01, 2007
6:02 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
NEohioPAL at lists.fredsternfeld.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NEohioPAL]An =
Open Letter
to Johnny Wu and NEohioPal Regarding Music for =
Movies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Mr.Wu ,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I'm writing in response to your post today concerning Moby's =
offer of
free music to film makers. Although I respect your tireless work on =
behalf of
independent film in <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Cleveland</st1:place></st1:City>,
I must emphatically disagree with this approach of looking much further =
than
our own region for music for film, no matter how noble Moby's intentions =
may
be.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I know that there are many local musicians and composers who =
would jump
at scoring independent film if given the chance, myself included. In =
fact, a
short time ago I had successfully done so. I considered my collaboration =
with
the director as one of the most challenging and rewarding projects I've
undertaken. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Fresh from that success I was motivated to find other film jobs.
Unfortunately, other local filmmakers were not as interested in =
collaboration.
One in particular went out of his way to secure rights for music he =
pulled from
his CD collection. Others have opted to not include music in their =
project;
others use music without permission. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I've had film makers say to me that they felt an original score =
was a
good idea at one time, but as the production dates flew by there was no =
more time
to collaborate – at which point they succumbed to one of the other =
ways
of obtaining music I've described. Can one imagine a film maker saying,
"Well, I thought having actors in my film but the time ran =
out…so I
just went with filming actors off my television." Though I realize =
the
absurdity of that statement, it helps to illustrate my point. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I'm not saying that there are not recent or current local film =
maker /
local composer collaborations that have worked out. I know of a couple
composers that have worked very steadily over the past few years. But =
there
needs to be more urgency on behalf of the local indie film maker to find =
local
film music artists. Just as technology has provided visual artists with =
the
means of reliable and inexpensive ways of editing their work on personal
computers, so to have musicians benefited from being able to produce
professional-grade music from their home studios. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>To sum up, I have nothing against Moby, but he's probably got =
more gigs
than he can shake a stick at. Why not give local composers, producers =
and
musicians a chance when movie music is needed? Why not let NEohioPAL be =
the
conduit for making these connections. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I remain respectfully yours,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Bruce Jennings<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><font =
size=3D3
  face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Shaker =
Heights</span></font></st1:City>,
 <st1:State w:st=3D"on">Ohio</st1:State></st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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