[NEohioPAL] Keep Government out of the Arts

[Jack Kilroy]

Artists should be free to create regardless of an expectation of funding.
No censorship.

Individuals should support the arts.  Corporations should support the arts.
Government should support the arts.  Foundations and other concentrations of
wealth should support the arts.  Nonprofit organizations should support the
arts. The arts make for a better society, so the whole society and all of
its sectors should support the arts.

Jack Kilroy

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Bud Graske <bud_graske at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Oh, please ... Do you really believe gov't funding would come with no
> strings attached? Or perhaps that certain "right thinking" concepts will get
> a little extra funding, and that "wrong thinking" will not be funded
> aggressively? Do we really want to give politicians that much power?
>
> You praise Britain, where political correctness has banned teaching about
> the Holocaust in some schools? Hard to imagine a production of "Schindler's
> List" getting funded ... How about a play critical of Hammas?
> How about cartoons depicting the prophet? Is that art? Do we want
> politicians to decide?
>
> I find it disturbing to see how many artists equate a lack of funding with
> censorship. Any time one artist "deserves" funding from the gov't, you open
> the door to one artist deserving it MORE than another. Be careful what you
> wish for! "Who pays the piper calls the tune" is still true.
>
> Bud Graske
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/1/09, Noah Budin <nbudin at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Noah Budin <nbudin at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Keep Government out of the Arts
> > To: "neohiopal" <neohiopal at listserve.com>
> > Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 12:08 PM
> > The governments funding of the art is CRUCIAL to its
> > survival, on so many levels and for so many reasons. Arts
> > education should be included in this mix as well. Arts
> > education helps children develop an appreciation for the
> > arts and builds the foundation for a life of arts support.
> > But that's a whole topic unto itself.
> >
> > I just did a little preliminary research on line to grab
> > some stats. One can spend a lifetime researching and
> > documenting this - and I think the data comes out pretty
> > much the same - but here are some quick numbers:
> >
> > This from a Canadian study in 2003 - 2004 and the figures
> > are in Canadian dollars.
> > Per capita government arts spending:
> > England - $22.99
> > Scotland - $20.00
> > Austrailia - $6.19
> > Canada is pretty low at $4.15
> > But - and be proud, America! - here's the total govt.
> > arts funding per capita for the U.S. - $0.44
> >
> > Wow.
> >
> > Here's my source:
> >
> http://www.canadacouncil.ca/NR/rdonlyres/9C37F2C4-FB69-47C9-8227-EC8C46CAEACF/0/Comparisonsofartsfunding27Oct2005.pdf
> >
> > For some drier reading, try this:
> >
> > http://www.osborne-conant.org/arts_funding.htm#1
> >
> > Noah Budin
> > www.noahbudin.com
> >
> > --- On Sun, 2/1/09, MARC MORITZ
> > <marcmoritz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > From: MARC MORITZ <marcmoritz at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Keep Government out of the Arts
> > To: neohiopal at listserve.com, "Terrence J Smith"
> > <smith at tennisamigo.com>
> > Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:40 AM
> >
> > Oh....Do mean countries like Great Britain , France ,
> > Germany , where the Government financially participates in
> > the funding of the Arts as a major part of their
> > nation's fabric? With no censorship as a result of that
> > funding? Where Theatres are not crumbling daily?
> >
> >
> >
> > Marc Moritz
> >
> >
> > marc moritz
> > 216-255-1120
> >
> > --- On Sat, 1/31/09, Terrence J Smith
> > <smith at tennisamigo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Terrence J Smith <smith at tennisamigo.com>
> > Subject: [NEohioPAL] Keep Government out of the Arts
> > To: neohiopal at listserve.com
> > Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 5:21 PM
> >
> > The purpose of governments is to protect us from hostile
> > nations and from
> > criminals and settle disputes in the courts.  Keep the
> > government out of
> > the arts, out of banks, out of autos, and out of our
> > pockets.
> >
> > All this bailout stuff is just breeding the mentality of
> > 'I want to get
> > part of the loot.'  I participate in the arts through
> > acting and music
> > performances, and if art is going to remain free (as in
> > freedom) it can't
> > be chained down by some bureaucrat determining who gets
> > support, telling
> > you what you can or cannot create.
> >
> > As government starts getting into business, they are
> > telling executives
> > how much money they can make, that any more than that is
> > "shameful"
> > (as
> > Obama put it).  Artists, male or female, must be paid
> > according to the
> > market, not by voting for some legislation.
> >
> > Terry Smith
> > North Olmsted
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