[NEohioPAL] You Can't Go Holmes Again

Robert Hawkes rhhawkes at gmail.com
Mon Jan 4 05:28:17 PST 2010 

*Without a Clue* - indeed, a first-class entertainment, full of actual wit,
not just "really good explosions", which, I fear, are not on my list of
criteria for judging a film, at least not since I attained majority. I can't
"disagree" with people who have enjoyed this "Victorian *Batman*" - you
can't disagree with taste - it's just that explosions, gratuitous slo-mo,
explosions IN slo-mo, anachronistic one-liners ("Love what you've done with
the place"), and so on  - the arsenal of action flick clichés - just don't
move me to anything but trying to check my watch in the dark. If that floats
your boat, great. I guess I hoped there might be something more than that
there -and there really isn't. Should have stayed home and watched Jeremy
Brett. Or *Goldfinger*. And as for accuracy of period detail - a young woman
of Watson's fiancée's station showing off cleavage at dinner in 1880/90? I'm
pretty sure, from what I know of my grandma, that my great-grandma wouldn't
have done that.

I'll keep my money in my pocket until the new film by Michael Haneke, Bruno
Dumont, Coen Bros, Dardenne Bros, etc. - you know: something that will
actually engage my faculties. All of them.

Cheers and Happy New Year to all.

RHH

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Beverly Kristy <bkristy at mindspring.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am enjoying all the outlooks on this film and intend to see it.
>
> Have to chime in that one of my favorite portrayal of Holmes is Michael
> Caine's in Without a Clue, the spoof that has Watson as the real deductive
> brains behind Holmes (played by Ben Kingsley).
>
> Beverly Kristy
> 440-487-6698
> bkristy at mindspring.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALICE GULICK" <ajgulick at earthlink.net>
> To: "chris mele" <christop.mele at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: <>; "Kelly and Phil Florian" <pkflorian at ameritech.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Holmes: Surprisingly canon
>
>
>  Dear Kelly and Phil - thanks for bringing all this Holmesiana back to  my
>> aged mind. It reminds me of the annual Yuletide disappointment of "Messiah"
>> fans upon hearing it performed by a right-sized, period ensemble and chorus
>> instead of the huge forces they are used to hearing.
>>
>> I must confess to having already enjoyed this new SHERLOCK HOLMES, despite
>> my Hollywood-induced bigotry, relishing the wealth of period detail and FX,
>> as well as a really good yarn, a sort of Victorian era "Batman" -- so what
>> if it wasn't (or so I thought) the "correct"  veersion of Holmes! NOW I will
>> go back and REALLY enjoy it a second  time as not only entertainment, but an
>> attempt to be true to its  origins.
>>
>> My one remaining complaint, and this registered more with me than
>> anything, was Downey's (lack of) accent, combined with the ability to
>> understand him (this may be my aged ears.) As an actress myself, I  wish he
>> had done more work with a good coach. But maybe that's me own ignorance
>> speaking again -- I have always imagined him (or had him  imaged FOR me) as
>> teddibly uppah -- and his accent didn't sound that  far off from Jude Law's.
>>
>> Anyway, I really appreciated this enlightenment!
>> Cheers, Lissy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:08 PM, chris mele wrote:
>>
>>  who  cares .   .  .  !
>>>
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>>>
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Kelly and Phil Florian <pkflorian at ameritech.net>
>>> To: <neohiopal at listserve.com>
>>> Date: Sun, Jan 3, 8:56 AM -0800
>>> Subject: [NEohioPAL] Holmes:  Surprisingly canon
>>>
>>> First and foremost the new Holmes movie was very entertaining.   Holmes
>>> and Watson are honestly the original buddy-cop story and the  fact that it
>>> comes across as a fun buddy-cop romp shouldn't be  surprising!  What is
>>> great is that contrary to folks who think this  movie was a departure from
>>> A.C. Doyle canon, the opposite is true.   Many films since the original
>>> stories departed quite quickly from  the canon and introduced things that
>>> while some consider true (the  flappy ear hat and pipe, for example) were
>>> actually film  contributions.  Holmes was anything but some boring talky
>>>  detective.  While Jeremy Brett will still be my favorite Holmes, I  can
>>> appreciate Guy Ritchie's fun take on the character and his return to the
>>> original stories more pulpy roots.
>>>
>>> What the movie got right that people seem most offended by is the  fact
>>> he is an action hero as much as an intellectual one.  The books/ short
>>> stories clearly point to his mastery of boxing and a Japanese  martial art
>>> know as Baritsu.  In one movie scene he is seen shooting  the letters "VR"
>>> into a wall with a gun.  Not what one would  remember Holmes for but again,
>>> this was in the stories not just the  movie.   He was cleary a drug addict
>>> and likely bi-polar (he had  many episodes of despondence and withdrawal in
>>> the books and needed  a new case or more drugs to move this forward).
>>>
>>> I think any one who is a fan of Holmes and his fun relationship with
>>> Watson, the deductions, the interactions with Scotland Yard, etc.  etc. will
>>> really enjoy the movie.  It is far from some drawing room  mystery. There
>>> are no "you might wonder why I gathered you all  here" moments but this
>>> isn't Poirot...this is Holmes, the Victorian  era action hero. :-)
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
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