[NEohioPAL] short notice good gig
Jean Zarzour
lipschtick at lipschtick.com
Fri Oct 19 08:17:31 PDT 2007
Thanks for your response Kaye and everyone who replied off-list in support
of the GOT PAY? effort.
It's very nice to hear your personal success story Kaye, but for most people
the story stops with "I did a print ad for a country band once with no pay,
just a tear sheet."
I have worked professionally in this market for the past 20 years. The
reason I and others make this effort is so that Cleveland, in particular,
does not lose any more valuable work for the professional artist.
Union gigs have deteriorated. It's evident that the non-union, paying
opportunities have also deteriorated. That means that we need more
solidarity between ALL artists, union or non-union. We are all losing
valuable work and there is NO REASON that people appearing in TV, Radio
commercials or Print Ads shouldn't have the respect of a pay check. They
are ALL commercials designed to profit the advertiser.
The camera man gets paid. The sound engineer gets paid. EVERYONE else gets
paid. They are often the employs of these TV stations that do freelance
production. They get paid and so should you.
If every artist who hopes to become full time decides to work for NO PAY, we
are headed for a market that has NO Paying opportunities or hope for
advancement.
I can only equate this to the rapid rate that global warming and pollution
are destroying the planet. Every preventative measure we take now will
ensure the preservation of our environment in the future. It really is the
same for the arts.
Our ultimate goal is to keep Cleveland alive in the professional performance
arena. But it won't be alive much longer if everyone doesn't start
smartening up and look ahead.
This is preventative. I can't emphasize that enough.
In response to your imploring question, yes, I do employ area artists with
very generous pay and have done so consistently over the past 18 years as
owner of an event entertainment company, Lipschtick.
Remember: If Money Is Made, The Talent Gets Paid!
Your devoted advocate and founder of the Got Pay? Organization.
Jean Zarzour
----- Original Message -----
From: Star Day
To: Jean Zarzour ; Kimyddr at aol.com ; neohiopal at listserve.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] short notice good gig
Hey folks I just wanted to comment on this.
I am pretty established as a model actress and singer in the Cleveland
area. However, there are times that I have taken a non-paid gig for
exposure. In particular, I did a print ad for a country band once with no
pay, just a tear sheet. That poster led me to a paid gig in which I will be
flown out to LA in Feb 2008 (with hotel accomadations) PLUS pay to shoot a
music video.
Now don't get me wrong, I think the majority of the time we all should be
paid. I have been fortunate enough to be paid for the majority of work I
do... I follow the "4 P's" system. I will consider a job for Promo
(exposure), product, print and/or pay. My goal is to get at least 2 or more
of teh "4 P's" and usually I do. As an example of product? I am the Spokes
Person for Destination Travel 2. I do not get paid much other when I do an
appearance or print ad HOWEVER, I get to travel FOR FREE to all over and
Destination Travel pays the bill... In the past 6 months I have been to:
Atlanta, Miami, San Diego, Tijuana, Sanibel/Captiva Islands, Key West And
Naples Florida. If you ask me, not to bad for not getting paid and it is
great exposure. Because of my gig with Destination Travel, I landed an on
air slot on the radio in Daytona... Interviewed as an upcoming model/actress
from Cleveland. All due to exposure. Hmmm... So tell me, would you not take
this job just because it is mostly exposure and no direct pay? I also work
with Genesis Hair and Skin. I've done 3 print ads for them for no pay.
However, I get the use of their salon and all their products, free laser
facials, foot detox, oxygenated laser therapy for the skin and let me tell
you IT DOES WORK!!!! A yearly package for these services well over $4,000.
So again I ask, am I wasting my time because this job doesn't directly pay?
I happen to feel I made out on this deal because I recieved free exposure,
print work and FREE Service/Product... Not to shabby...
I have one final thought to say here. As I stated before I do not comment
much on NeoPal simply for the most part I am disappointed to see the
community I am part of being judgemental, critical and constantly putting
others down on here. I do not think this was what Neopal was intended for.
And Jean I do implore, if you are going to criticise, then does this mean
you have paying job lined up to offer people in our acting/modeling
community??? Hmmm....
It comes down to this. We are in the Cleveland market, there are few
paying gigs (unfortunately) in this area but taking on non-paid roles helps
build your resume to get those future paid gigs whether here or LA/NY or
where ever. I've paid my dues of working gigs for free and it's paid off for
me in the long run and now I get paid quite often and I am doing well for
myself.
Thanks,
Kaye
http://www.myspace.com/kristal13
----- Original Message ----
From: Jean Zarzour <gotpay at gotpay.org>
To: Kimyddr at aol.com; neohiopal at listserve.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:19:36 PM
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] short notice good gig
Dear NeohioPals-
For those of you not familiar The Got Pay? Organization, here is a quick
synopsis: On February 17, 2005 WOIO posted a casting call for a commercial
they were producing, but offering NO PAY to anyone who would appear in the
spot.
After a heated debate on NEOPAL, a panel of 12 area artists, writers,
producers and directors formed the GOT PAY? Organization and on March 21,
2005 we held a town hall meeting to discuss the best business standards &
practices for all artists, union or non union, in order to establish their
worth as commercial actors in the NE Ohio region, in particular. 67 people
attended for a lively, 3 hour discussion.
Visit www.gotpay.org/Got_Mentor.html for the panelist bios and much more
valuable information.
Here we go again. Same warning, different non-paying opportunity. Here is
a MAJOR TV STATION that needs an actress for a Bumper (which is another word
for promo or commercial. It identifies the station and it's upcoming
programming). Anything that promises nothing more than "great exposure"
will only lead to other non-paying opportunities.
Respect yourself, your time and talent.
Remember: If Money Is Made, The Talent Gets Paid!
Your devoted advocate and founder of the Got Pay? Organization.
Jean Zarzour
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimyddr at aol.com
To: neohiopal at listserve.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:26 PM
Subject: [NEohioPAL] short notice good gig
i need an actress to play my wife in a major tv station bumper. the
shoot is from noon until 3pm tomorrow friday october 19 2007. contact me if
you'd like some great exposure and more details. no pay/good exposure.
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