[NEohioPAL] Waiting on Refund Check

Tue Mar 3 06:35:22 PST 2009

As a photographer who used to do band photos for a living, I have to 
back up what Bill said. Bands are notoriously unreliable, and often 
decided at any place in the process that they didn't have to pay you. 
My favourite (and this was back in the days when most of your "profit" 
went into film and processing) was bands who came to the session and 
never called to pick up the proof sheets because someone left the band 
right after that and they didn't feel they ought to pay. That's when i 
started getting all my money at the session and not when they picked up 
the proofs. Deposits are specifically intended to insure that you show 
up, and if you think there is any chance that you might not be going 
through with a session, it's not time to book it yet. I might be a 
little more sympathetic if a family member had died and you had to 
cancel due to a funeral, but your finances should be worked out and 
money set aside before you book a session and put down a deposit.

-----Original Message-----
From: BB at BruckenStudio.com
To: Michelle Rosario <shell4577 at yahoo.com>; neohiopal at listserve.com
Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 8:00 am
Subject: Re: [NEohioPAL] Waiting on Refund Check

Sorry Michelle, but I don't think your photographer
did anything wrong, and I think it's wrong to spread negative info 
about him.
Why do you think he took the deposit in the first place?=2
0Why does any 
business
take deposits? It is either to hold an item for you or to guaranty that 
you'll
show up for your appointment. Did he explain why he was taking the 
deposit? Did
he explain that it was non-refundable? Did you ask?

I'm not trying to beat you up over this, but your
photographer, like many, many businesses, take deposits because of 
customers
like you. He had to schedule a time for you, a time he could have 
scheduled a
paying customer. Perhaps he had to purchase supplies for the shoot or 
reserve a
studio to do the shoot. Even if he didn't, it all gets lumped together 
to cover
expenses caused by "no-show" customers.

If he had charged you for the entire shoot, he
would probably owe you a partial refund. You're lucky he didn't charge 
you up
front for the entire shoot! He must have explained his policy or you
wouldn't have just given him a check.

I've been a businessman all of my life, and I have
owned all or part of 15 businesses in my lifetime. I have also been a 
customer
of countless businesses. It is generally understood that deposits are 
almost
always non-refundable if you don't show for your appointment. You 
shouldn't post
negative things about the photographer. What if he were posting your 
name all
over town saying "don't do business with her, she's a no-show." There 
are a lot
of photographers who subscribe to this list, and I'm s
ure some would be 
leery of
doing business with you. I'm sure they would take a deposit and explain 
that it
is a "non-refundable" deposit.
____________________
Bill
Brucken
BruckenStudio.com
216-387-5757
BB at BruckenStudio.com
www.BruckenStudio.com

  ----- Original Message -----
  From:
  Michelle
  Rosario
  To: neohiopal at listserve.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:10
  AM
  Subject: [NEohioPAL] Waiting on Refund
  Check

  Thank you to all for all of your advice regarding the photo shoot
  deposit.  I have not heard back from photographer but I have filed a
  Ripoff Report.  Never knew of such a site until I heard from all of
   you.  The photographer is based in Vermilion, Ohio but uses a studio 
in
  Cleveland.  He is "Photography by Michael Chevalier", christael
   photo. He didn't lose any money with my cancellation but yet he was 
unwilling
  to even give me 1/2 of my retainer.  He had already spent it so he
   couldn't give it back.  I wish that I had put a stop payment on the 
check
  but didn't think of it until after it was cashed.  Anymore advice
   would be greatly appreciated.  Maybe if he were to hear others 
opinions
  he might give in.  We'll see only time will tell.  Thanks
   everyone.  Also if you know of any local agents my kids are daughter 
8
  and son 12.

        God bless,
        Michelle 

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